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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Stuart,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As John mentioned, your problem is that you have no frame named TableFootnote on the Reference Pages<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You’ll need to add a frame to the reference page to control that space… it doesn’t need to have content but I believe it’ll require a name of TableFootnote, as John mentioned. That should be the end of it, and you can resize that empty frame to space out your text. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I believe John’s solution is 1 step farther than you need to go...in my experience, you’ll not need to apply a Frame Above to the Table Footnote paragraph tag. To do so would add the frame again in between multiparagraph footnotes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It sounds like one of 2 things happened:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Your template file began its life with FM 6 or so, before there was a TableFootnote frame on the Ref Pages<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You accidentally deleted the TableFootnote frame on the Reference Pages<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Either way, let me know if this solution solves your problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-Matt<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F497A'>Matt Sullivan</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#747474'><br><b>Director of Training | roundpeg, Inc.</b> <br></span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'><a href="http://twitter.com/mattrsullivan"><span style='color:#7F7F7F;text-decoration:none'>@mattrsullivan</span></a></span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#747474'><br><b>P:</b> 714.960.6840 | <b>F:</b> 360.230.7269 | <a href="mailto:matt@roundpeg.com"><span style='color:#747474'>matt@roundpeg.com</span></a> <br>4590 MacArthur Blvd., Suite 620 | Newport Beach, CA 92660 <br><br><img border=0 width=115 height=21 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01CC47C3.44038D20" alt="Description: http://training.roundpeg.com/roundpeg/images/signature/rplogo1.png"><br><a href="http://www.roundpeg.com"><span style='color:#747474'>www.roundpeg.com</span></a></span><span style='color:#1F497D'> <br></span><a href="http://twitter.com/roundpeginc"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=15 height=15 id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image002.png@01CC47C3.44038D20" alt="Description: http://training.roundpeg.com/roundpeg/images/signature/twitter.png"></span></a><a href="http://www.facebook.com/roundpegInc"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=15 height=15 id="Picture_x0020_3" src="cid:image003.png@01CC47C3.44038D20" alt="Description: http://training.roundpeg.com/roundpeg/images/signature/facebook.png"></span></a><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/companies/roundpeg-inc"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=15 height=15 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[mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Pitt<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 21, 2011 4:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> framers@lists.frameusers.com; Stuart Rogers<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: unable to position table footnote pgf<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Stuart,<br><br>You should be able to control the space above by adding a Frame Above Pgf on the Advanced tab of Para Designer. <br><br>My templates include a TableFootnote option in the dropdown, but if that option is not already available you can build one on the Reference pages. <br><br>jjj<br><br>On 22/07/2011 3:00 AM, Stuart Rogers wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><pre>TCS 2.0 FM 9.0p255 WinXP SP3<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I'm trying to set up a table format in a new template. I've added a <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>sample footnote in a cell, and the footnote text appears below the <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>table. However, the text appears with no space between it and the <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>bottom rule of the table -- in fact, the rule touches the tops of the <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>letters in the footnote text.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I've tried increasing the Space Above in the table-footnote pgf tag; <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>doing so causes the <span class=moz-txt-tag><b>*</b></span><b>following<span class=moz-txt-tag>*</span></b> paragraph to move down, but has no <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>effect on the footnote text.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I've tried increasing the Space Below in the Table Designer; same result.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I've tried increasing the Space Below in the table title pgf tag, the <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>table anchor pgf tag, and in a cell in the bottom table row; no effect.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>The User Guide and the Help don't address footnote spacing per se, as <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>far as I can tell.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Any suggestions on how to control this spacing?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>thanks,<o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <br><i>Pragmatism rules, OK?</i> <o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal><b>John Pitt, technical writer/consultant</b> <br>8 Hendrix St <br>Windaroo QLD 4207 <br>Ph: 07 3804 0416 <br>VoIP: 07 3495 5185 <br>Mob: 0438 92 8096 <br><a href="http://www.pitt.net.au">www.pitt.net.au</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>