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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=968095500-15082011><FONT face=Arial
size=3>Ohhhhhh ... thank you, Fred, I completely overlooked this point. I
suppose one could work around it by printing from FM to PS, then taking the PS
into PDF via another tool. But I imagine that would muck up a lot of people's
preferred workflow. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=968095500-15082011><FONT face=Arial
size=3>And now, I have a good idea where to experiment a bit ... which I will do
sometime soon. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=968095500-15082011><FONT face=Arial
size=3>Best regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV><SPAN
class=968095500-15082011></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=3>Elchanan<SPAN
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Fred Ridder [mailto:docudoc@hotmail.com]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 14, 2011 5:12 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
techsubs@vibrantlivingministries.org;
framers@lists.frameusers.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Responses to Can't get a pdf
file from FM 10<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>To the best of my knowledge, the *only* PDF creation tool that
preserves the hyperlinks in a FrameMaker book (cross-references, TOC
entries, index entries, etc.) in the PDF is Adobe Acrobat--either the full
Acrobat suite or the "headless" version of Acrobat Distiller that is bundled
with FrameMaker. Regardless of any other issues, this is a deal-breaker for many
FrameMaker users. If the only objective is a printable file, there are several
alternative PDF tools that would be adequate. But any of your users who
read PDF files onscreen will expect at least some interactivity to make the
document easier to navigate and use.<BR> <BR>The Nitro PDF website
describes their tool as being capable of preserving interactive features from
Microsoft Office applications, but they make no such claim regarding any other
applications from any other vendors.<BR> <BR>Fred Ridder<BR> <BR>
<DIV>> From: TechSubs@VibrantLivingMinistries.org<BR>> To:
framers@lists.frameusers.com<BR>> Subject: RE: FW: Responses to Can't get a
pdf file from FM 10<BR>> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:38:39 -0700<BR>>
<BR>> Thanks Art, I appreciate your response. I feel curious ... have
you<BR>> seriously tried to work on a day-in, day-out basis with any of these
other<BR>> products? I'm not in an environment where I would stress them in
such a way,<BR>> so I cannot respond from my own experience. However, my
reading on the most<BR>> recent releases of some of these products (Nuance
and Nitro in particular)<BR>> at least suggests that they are rivaling and
even surpassing Acrobat itself<BR>> these days.<BR>> <BR>>
Best,<BR>> Elchanan<BR>> <BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From:
Art Campbell [mailto:art.campbell@gmail.com] <BR>> Sent: Sunday, August 14,
2011 3:21 PM<BR>> To: VLM TechSubs<BR>> Cc:
framers@lists.frameusers.com<BR>> Subject: Re: FW: Responses to Can't get a
pdf file from FM 10<BR>> <BR>> My $.02 would be because Adobe 1.) Builds
features into its PDF generators<BR>> that no one else does, that allow
expanded PDF file capability and 2.) Frame<BR>> and Acrobat can be pretty
tightly integrated; no other PDF tools let you do<BR>> as much -- for
instance, moving comments back and forth during an edit<BR>> cycle.<BR>>
<BR>> So long run if you use the tools every day and for high end
work...<BR>> Acrobat tends to give you mroe bang for the buck.<BR>>
<BR>> Art<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Art Campbell<BR>>
art.campbell@gmail.com<BR>> "... In my
opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and<BR>> a
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson<BR>>
No
disclaimers apply.<BR>>
DoD 358<BR>> <BR>> I support www.TheGrotonLine.com,
hyperlocal news for Groton MA.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> On Sun, Aug
14, 2011 at 3:18 PM, VLM TechSubs<BR>>
<TechSubs@vibrantlivingministries.org> wrote:<BR>> > I don't mean to
seem disrespectful toward anyone, but with <BR>> > alternatives available,
why are people seemingly so committed to <BR>> > "getting Acrobat to
work"? Why not just use a different tool that DOES <BR>> > work, such as
Nitro, Nuance's PDF Creator, a couple of free variants, etc.<BR>>
><BR>> > Or is this inquiry fatally flawed for some reason I am
missing?<BR>> ><BR>> > Best to all,<BR>> > Elchanan<BR>>
><BR>> > -----Original Message-----<BR>> > From:
framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com<BR>> >
[mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike <BR>> >
Wickham<BR>> > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 1:56 PM<BR>> > To:
framers@lists.frameusers.com<BR>> > Subject: Re: Responses to Can't get a
pdf file from FM 10<BR>> ><BR>> > Two wild stabs at your
problem:<BR>> ><BR>> > 1. I recall a time when I was getting no PDF
generation. It turned out <BR>> > that in File> Preferences>
General, I had Cross-Platform File Naming <BR>> > set to Macintosh on a
Windows computer, and my file name was one <BR>> > character too long for
the Mac 31-character (or whatever) limit. FM <BR>> > actually let me go
through something like four dialog boxes toward <BR>> > creating the PDF,
but gave me no clue while it was failing.<BR>> ><BR>> > 2. I also
had problems with Acrobat X on Windows 7 64-bit. I was <BR>> > getting no
PDFs. It turned out that Acrobat updates, both 10.0.1 and <BR>> > 10.0.2
were trashing the port setting for the Adobe PDF printer and<BR>> setting it
to COM1:!<BR>> > It was necessary to delete Adobe PDF printer and do a
repair install <BR>> > to fix the issue.<BR>> ><BR>> > Mike
Wickham<BR>> ><BR>> > On 8/13/2011 3:16 PM, Cal Callahan
wrote:<BR>> >> I'm using Windows 7 and Acrobat Pro. I'm not at work
right now, so <BR>> >> can't check how much RAM & free disk space I
have, but I'm sure <BR>> >> there's plenty.<BR>> >> I tried
print to file, print to PDF, save as PDF, print to pdf Cute <BR>> >>
Writer (?), create pdf from Acrobat Pro, and probably some others I <BR>>
>> don't recall. I sometimes would get the job option error message, but
<BR>> >> that seems to have gone away since I created a job option
called <BR>> >> Standard1. I see a "file not found" error from Acrobat
Pro that <BR>> >> presumably results from my opting to show the pdf
after generation.<BR>> >> Don't know about the font embedding or the
job options setting for <BR>> >> that, but will check when I go back to
work Tuesday.<BR>> >> It's a company computer, so don't know what
patches have been <BR>> >> installed, how I would know if they had been
installed, or if I can <BR>> >> install the HotFix for Postscript
printers. (Do I need this when I'm <BR>> >> just trying to save a file
as pdf?) Thanks for your feedback and <BR>> >> sorry I'm fuzzy on the
details.<BR>> >> cal<BR>> >><BR>> ><BR>> >
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