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1. Re: screwy x-ref formatting (Grant Hogarth)<br>
2. How to search archive (Anton David)<br>
3. Re: How to search archive (Shmuel Wolfson)<br>
4. Vector symbols for warning, caution, note, etc. (Rick Quatro)<br>
5. R: How to search archive (Anton David)<br>
6. Table templates (FrameMaker 10) (Steve Rickaby)<br>
7. RE: Table templates (FrameMaker 10) (Rick Quatro)<br>
8. FrameMaker menu bar issue (George, Brenda (CAI))<br>
9. Re: FrameMaker menu bar issue (Baruch Brodersen)<br>
10. Re: FrameMaker menu bar issue (Scott Prentice)<br>
11. OT: Scary responsibility in job ad (Writer)<br>
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Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2011 11:56:55 -0600<br>
From: Grant Hogarth <<a href="mailto:grant@hedgewizard.net">grant@hedgewizard.net</a>><br>
To: "Carol J. Elkins" <<a href="mailto:celkins@awrittenword.com">celkins@awrittenword.com</a>><br>
Cc: Frame Users <<a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: screwy x-ref formatting<br>
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All I can think of is that you are missing a "<DefaultParaFont>" (or "<<br>
\>") at the end of the reference string.<br>
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Grant<br>
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On 10/4/2011 8:44 PM, Carol J. Elkins wrote:<br>
> I haven't seen a response to this, so I wanted to comment that I have<br>
> this happen in one particular book as well. But unlike John's<br>
> experience where his entire xref turns blue, every time I regenerate,<br>
> I lose the blue character formatting in some, but not all, of the<br>
> xrefs. But when I close down the book and reopen it, all the xrefs are<br>
> correctly formatted once again. A sample xref format would be<br>
> <X-refBlue>Figure\ <$paranumonly> on\ page\ <$chapnum>?<$pagenum><br>
><br>
> I can't narrow the problem down to any specific xref format, and I<br>
> confess that because reopening the book solves the problem, I haven't<br>
> really pursued a fix. My system has 8 GB of RAM, so resources<br>
> shouldn't be a problem. Very frustrating. It would be great if anyone<br>
> can shed some light on this. I'm using Frame9 on Win7, fully patched.<br>
><br>
> Carol<br>
><br>
> At 11:00 AM 9/30/2011, you wrote:<br>
>> I have a simple x-ref that works fine in 7 books and screwy in an<br>
>> eight book.<br>
>> <Blue><$paratext> </>on page <$pagenum><br>
>> usually produces the desired blue text for the title and plain text<br>
>> for the page number, but in the errant book the entire x-ref is blue.<br>
>> When I update the x-ref, it behaves properly. But when I update all<br>
>> x-refs in the book, it reverts to the all-blue look.<br>
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Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 09:36:10 +0200<br>
From: "Anton David" <<a href="mailto:anton@xlated.com">anton@xlated.com</a>><br>
To: <<a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a>><br>
Subject: How to search archive<br>
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Dears framers,<br>
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I would like to know how you do to search the archive.<br>
As far as I see, you have to open each single month thread to do a search.<br>
Is there a way you can do a search on all archive contents?<br>
<br>
I have the feeling we are not leveraging the information the best way and<br>
many times same questions might be repeated.<br>
<br>
Wish you a pleasant day<br>
<br>
Anton<br>
Localization area<br>
Xlated.com<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 10:58:08 +0200<br>
From: Shmuel Wolfson <<a href="mailto:shmuelw1@gmail.com">shmuelw1@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Anton David <<a href="mailto:anton@xlated.com">anton@xlated.com</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a><br>
Subject: Re: How to search archive<br>
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Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 07:57:19 -0400<br>
From: "Rick Quatro" <<a href="mailto:rick@rickquatro.com">rick@rickquatro.com</a>><br>
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Forgive me if this has been answered previously, but I am looking for some<br>
vector symbols for warning, caution, note, etc. Any pointers would be<br>
appreciated. Thank you very much.<br>
<br>
Rick Quatro<br>
Carmen Publishing Inc.<br>
<a href="tel:585-659-8267" value="+15856598267">585-659-8267</a><br>
<a href="mailto:rick@frameexpert.com">rick@frameexpert.com</a><br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 14:33:09 +0200<br>
From: "Anton David" <<a href="mailto:anton@xlated.com">anton@xlated.com</a>><br>
To: "'Shmuel Wolfson'" <<a href="mailto:shmuelw1@gmail.com">shmuelw1@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a><br>
Subject: R: How to search archive<br>
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Dear Shmuel,<br>
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Great and very useful tip.<br>
Regards<br>
Anton<br>
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________________________________<br>
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Da: Shmuel Wolfson [mailto:<a href="mailto:shmuelw1@gmail.com">shmuelw1@gmail.com</a>]<br>
Inviato: gioved? 6 ottobre 2011 10.58<br>
A: Anton David<br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a><br>
Oggetto: Re: How to search archive<br>
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You could do a site search using google:<br>
searchterm site:<a href="http://lists.frameusers.com" target="_blank">lists.frameusers.com</a><br>
Replace searchterm with your search term.<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Shmuel Wolfson<br>
Technical Writer<br>
052-763-7133<br>
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On 10/6/2011 9:36 AM, Anton David wrote:<br>
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Dears framers,<br>
<br>
<br>
I would like to know how you do to search the archive.<br>
As far as I see, you have to open each single month thread to do a<br>
search.<br>
Is there a way you can do a search on all archive contents?<br>
<br>
I have the feeling we are not leveraging the information the best<br>
way and<br>
many times same questions might be repeated.<br>
<br>
Wish you a pleasant day<br>
<br>
Anton<br>
Localization area<br>
Xlated.com<br>
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Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 14:00:53 +0100<br>
From: Steve Rickaby <<a href="mailto:srickaby@wordmongers.demon.co.uk">srickaby@wordmongers.demon.co.uk</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a><br>
Subject: Table templates (FrameMaker 10)<br>
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Posted for a colleague...<br>
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>To maintain consistency with documents created using RoboHelp 7, we need to create a table template (in FrameMaker 10, as part of TCS3.5) which contains images of step numbers (copied into anchored frames) in each row. The Table Designer isn't any help for this requirement and when I insert anchored frames and images into the table and save, they're not being 'picked up' by the table template.<br>
><br>
>Am I trying to do the impossible? If not, I'd much appreciate any relevant suggestions.<br>
<br>
I suspect that the answer to this is 'yes', but I'd like to be sure.<br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 09:37:55 -0400<br>
From: "Rick Quatro" <<a href="mailto:rick@rickquatro.com">rick@rickquatro.com</a>><br>
To: "'Steve Rickaby'" <<a href="mailto:srickaby@wordmongers.demon.co.uk">srickaby@wordmongers.demon.co.uk</a>>,<br>
<<a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a>><br>
Subject: RE: Table templates (FrameMaker 10)<br>
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Hi Steve,<br>
<br>
When you create or update a table format, each cell's paragraph format from<br>
the first row in each column is stored as part of the table format. This<br>
applies to heading, body, and footing rows. However, it only stores<br>
paragraph formats, not content like text and anchored frames. There are two<br>
ways you could handle this:<br>
<br>
1) Use a font for the step numbers and apply that paragraph format to the<br>
first column in the table. In the Table Designer, click Update All, so that<br>
when you insert a new table, the paragraph format will be used in that<br>
column.<br>
<br>
2) Make an example table with anchored frames, etc. and store it on a<br>
Reference Page, where you can use as a boilerplate table. There is a plugin<br>
that can be used to insert boilerplate content from a Reference Page; I<br>
think it is called AutoText.<br>
<br>
Of course, you could use FrameScript to automate the insertion of the table<br>
and the appropriate number of step graphics. Please let me know if you have<br>
any questions or comments. Thank you very much.<br>
<br>
Rick<br>
<br>
Rick Quatro<br>
Carmen Publishing Inc.<br>
<a href="tel:585-659-8267" value="+15856598267">585-659-8267</a><br>
<a href="mailto:rick@frameexpert.com">rick@frameexpert.com</a><br>
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com">framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com</a>] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby<br>
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 9:01 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a><br>
Subject: Table templates (FrameMaker 10)<br>
<br>
Posted for a colleague...<br>
<br>
>To maintain consistency with documents created using RoboHelp 7, we need to<br>
create a table template (in FrameMaker 10, as part of TCS3.5) which contains<br>
images of step numbers (copied into anchored frames) in each row. The Table<br>
Designer isn't any help for this requirement and when I insert anchored<br>
frames and images into the table and save, they're not being 'picked up' by<br>
the table template.<br>
><br>
>Am I trying to do the impossible? If not, I'd much appreciate any relevant<br>
suggestions.<br>
<br>
I suspect that the answer to this is 'yes', but I'd like to be sure.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Steve<br>
<br>
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Message: 8<br>
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 10:34:19 -0400<br>
From: "George, Brenda (CAI)" <<a href="mailto:BGeorge@federatedinv.com">BGeorge@federatedinv.com</a>><br>
To: "<a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a>><br>
Subject: FrameMaker menu bar issue<br>
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On my FrameMaker menu bar, I have noticed that a selection is missing from the choice list of a "Marketing" menu bar category in FrameMaker 8. This "Marketing" menu category and its choice list were added internally to the standard FrameMaker menu bar. The person who added it no longer works here. I need to locate the code that creates this additional menu bar selection.<br>
<br>
I'm not sure where to look for this code? Can anyone help me with this?<br>
<br>
Brenda George<br>
Desk: <a href="tel:%28724%29%20720-8491" value="+17247208491">(724) 720-8491</a><br>
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Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 12:04:35 -0400<br>
From: Baruch Brodersen <<a href="mailto:baruch@technitext.com">baruch@technitext.com</a>><br>
To: "George, Brenda (CAI)" <<a href="mailto:BGeorge@federatedinv.com">BGeorge@federatedinv.com</a>><br>
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In a FrameMaker 8 installation that still has the internally-developed code,<br>
look in:<br>
Program Files > Adobe > FrameMaker 8.0 > fminit > configui > wincmds.cfg<br>
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Best,<br>
<br>
Baruch Brodersen<br>
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On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:34 AM, George, Brenda (CAI) <<br>
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> On my FrameMaker menu bar, I have noticed that a selection is missing from<br>
> the choice list of a ?Marketing? menu bar category in FrameMaker 8. This<br>
> ?Marketing? menu category and its choice list were added internally to the<br>
> standard FrameMaker menu bar. The person who added it no longer works here.<br>
> I need to locate the code that creates this additional menu bar selection.<br>
> ****<br>
><br>
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> I?m not sure where to look for this code? Can anyone help me with this?***<br>
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Message: 10<br>
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 09:30:47 -0700<br>
From: Scott Prentice <<a href="mailto:sp10@leximation.com">sp10@leximation.com</a>><br>
To: Baruch Brodersen <<a href="mailto:baruch@technitext.com">baruch@technitext.com</a>><br>
Cc: "<a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: FrameMaker menu bar issue<br>
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A custom menu item may also be defined by an FDK client. This client<br>
could be loaded through an entry in the APIClients section of the<br>
maker.ini file or by adding the DLL to the fminit/Plugins folder. If<br>
you're saying that this menu item is missing and needs to be added ..<br>
you may be looking for a DLL file, or if the DLL is there, perhaps the<br>
maker.ini entry is missing.<br>
<br>
...scott<br>
<br>
<br>
Baruch Brodersen wrote:<br>
> In a FrameMaker 8 installation that still has the internally-developed<br>
> code, look in:<br>
> Program Files > Adobe > FrameMaker 8.0 > fminit > configui > wincmds.cfg<br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
><br>
> Baruch Brodersen<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:34 AM, George, Brenda (CAI)<br>
> <<a href="mailto:BGeorge@federatedinv.com">BGeorge@federatedinv.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:BGeorge@federatedinv.com">BGeorge@federatedinv.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> On my FrameMaker menu bar, I have noticed that a selection is<br>
> missing from the choice list of a ?Marketing? menu bar category in<br>
> FrameMaker 8. This ?Marketing? menu category and its choice list<br>
> were added internally to the standard FrameMaker menu bar. The<br>
> person who added it no longer works here. I need to locate the<br>
> code that creates this additional menu bar selection.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I?m not sure where to look for this code? Can anyone help me with<br>
> this?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Brenda George<br>
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Message: 11<br>
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 09:51:16 -0700 (PDT)<br>
From: Writer <<a href="mailto:generic668@yahoo.ca">generic668@yahoo.ca</a>><br>
To: framers <<a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a>><br>
Subject: OT: Scary responsibility in job ad<br>
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A local company listed this as one of the responsibilities in a job ad for a technical writer:<br>
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"coach engineers to improve their writing skills"<br>
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It makes me laugh and cringe in equal measures.<br>
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Nadine<br>
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