<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>I asked a similar question on the Yahoo FrameMaker-Dita group a few years ago in this thread: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/framemaker-dita/message/2849</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>Michael Muller-Hillebrand replied (and I include my original question):</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>> I'm using FrameMaker 9.<br>><br>> I want to remove inside and outside table rulings (except for the<br>> bottom line) in Format A. I've tried to do this in the<br>> topic.template.fm, but it won't take my changes. I've looked in the<br>> topic.edd.fm, but I can't figure out if the table formatting is<br>> defined there.<br>><br>> Where are table rulings defined?<br><br>Nadine,<br><br>You use the Table Designer to change table formats. Open the template,<br>insert a
table of the required format *without structure* and use the<br>Table Designer (Ctrl+T) to modify the settings. Also described here:<br><br>http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/9.0/Using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f\<br>7240c-7fc0.html#WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7240c-7fb3<br><br>When you are done click Update All.<br><br>Delete the table and insert a new table with that format again to see<br>what you achieved. Delete the table and save the template.<br><br>- Michael</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>In addition, Edna Elle said:</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>Hi,<br><br>Table layout is not controlled by the EDD when the table already<br>exists. When you initial insert the table, the TabStyle attribute<br>should control the layout and the typefaces used but after you have<br>inserted the table, the TabStyle attribute only controls the typefaces<br>that are used in the table. If you change the TabStyle
attribute value<br>then you need to also change the Table Designer table format to match<br>the attribute value. The table layout ruling, padding, and such is<br>defined in the Table Designer. However, if you have custom ruling or<br>ruling that has become "custom," you need to clear this. To do this:<br><br>1. Select all cells of the table, including the heading row and any<br>footer row that you may have.<br>2. Choose *Table* > *Custom Ruling & Shading*.<br>3. In the Custom Ruling and Shading dialog box, check the *Custom<br>Cell Ruling* box (seems wrong but it is correct). From the *Apply<br>Ruling Style* list, choose *From Table*. In the *To Selection*<br>and the *Inside Borders* areas, check /all/ boxes. Uncheck<br>*Custom Cell Shading* (assuming you have no shading to clear.)<br>Click *Apply*.<br><br><br>Good Luck,<br>---Edna Elle</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>That all helped me at the time. I hope you can find
something useful in it, too.</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>Nadine<br></span></div><div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "Lebbink, Belinda" <B.Lebbink@sdu.nl><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "'framers@lists.frameusers.com'" <framers@lists.frameusers.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 10, 2012 9:25:51 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Framemaker table line issue<br> </font> <br><div id="yiv356972828"><style><!--
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--></style><div><div class="yiv356972828WordSection1"><div class="yiv356972828MsoNormal" style="background:#EEF4F9;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#333333;" lang="EN">Hello all,</span></div><div class="yiv356972828MsoNormal" style="background:#EEF4F9;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#333333;" lang="EN"> </span></div><div class="yiv356972828MsoNormal" style="background:#EEF4F9;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#333333;" lang="EN">Recently we've updated our Framemaker version from 7.2 to 10. </span></div><div class="yiv356972828MsoNormal" style="background:#EEF4F9;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#333333;" lang="EN">There are a few minor problems, but one confuses me.</span></div><div class="yiv356972828MsoNormal" style="background:#EEF4F9;"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#333333;" lang="EN"> </span></div><div class="yiv356972828MsoNormal" style="background:#EEF4F9;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#333333;" lang="EN">Generating a xml-document with the old edd, template and r/w-rules results in a lineless at the bottom from a table if the cell above has a straddle.</span></div><div class="yiv356972828MsoNormal" style="background:#EEF4F9;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#333333;" lang="EN">When I unstraddle the cell, the line (outside ruling: bottom, very thin / draw bottom ruling on last sheet only = on) the line appears. Straddle the cell again and the line disappears.</span></div><div class="yiv356972828MsoNormal" style="background:#EEF4F9;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#333333;" lang="EN">When I open an old FM 7.2 document, the line
displays correctly.</span></div><div class="yiv356972828MsoNormal" style="background:#EEF4F9;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#333333;" lang="EN">I have saved the 7.2 edd, f/w and temp-files as 10 files, the missing line thing still appears.</span></div><div class="yiv356972828MsoNormal" style="background:#EEF4F9;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#333333;" lang="EN"> </span></div><div class="yiv356972828MsoNormal" style="background:#EEF4F9;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#333333;" lang="EN">I have saved a new generated FM-document as a MIF: in the new generated file stands "<CellRRuling 'None'>". When I removed this line from the file and reload it in FM, the bottom line displays correctly.</span></div><div class="yiv356972828MsoNormal" style="background:#EEF4F9;"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#333333;" lang="EN">How can I correct this in Framemaker? I can't find it. </span></div><div class="yiv356972828MsoNormal" style="background:#EEF4F9;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#333333;" lang="EN"> </span></div><div class="yiv356972828MsoNormal" style="background:#EEF4F9;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#333333;" lang="EN">Who can help me? </span></div><div class="yiv356972828MsoNormal" style="background:#EEF4F9;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#333333;" lang="EN"> </span></div><div class="yiv356972828MsoNormal" style="background:#EEF4F9;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#333333;">Tia.</span></div><div class="yiv356972828MsoNormal" style="background:#EEF4F9;"><span
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