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If you are talking about JPEG 2000, I would agree.<br>
I still find that adding annotations on a JPG (unless one uses no
compression), leaves artifacts, which are especially noticeable when
they get scaled.<br>
If you are not scaling and not annotating directly on the image,
then JPG is probably not a bad choice.<br>
(And yes, I agree that FM needs to improve it's handling of PNG
colors. FM10 seems to have eliminated most of that problem (in that
I've not noticed it in FM 10), but I've also not pushed the limits.
(I also save in indexed PNG, which may have something to do with
it.)<br>
<br>
See also:<br>
<ul>
<li>optiping: <a href="http://optipng.sourceforge.net/">http://optipng.sourceforge.net/</a><br>
(get the "opti-png UI" add on here: <a
href="http://www.enzofleri.com/eng/programs.html">http://www.enzofleri.com/eng/programs.html</a>
)<br>
</li>
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and <br>
<ul>
<li>pngcrush: <a href="http://pmt.sourceforge.net/pngcrush/">http://pmt.sourceforge.net/pngcrush/</a></li>
</ul>
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white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
font-size: medium; "><b>Note from website:</b> Pngcrush is a
command line application. If you prefer a draggity-droppity GUI,
several are available, including these which embed pngcrush along
with other command line image compressors/optimizers:</p>
<ul style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman';
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<li><a href="http://imageoptim.pornel.net/">ImageOptim</a><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>for Macs, free, GPLv2
license</li>
<li><a href="http://trimage.org/">Trimage</a><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>for Linux, Windows, Mac,
free, MIT license</li>
</ul>
<h4>Related "How-To" articles:</h4>
<ul>
<li><a
href="http://www.websiteoptimization.com/speed/tweak/png-optimization/">http://www.websiteoptimization.com/speed/tweak/png-optimization/
</a></li>
<li><a
href="http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/07/15/clever-png-optimization-techniques/">http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/07/15/clever-png-optimization-techniques/</a></li>
<li><a
href="http://perishablepress.com/press/2009/05/17/png-image-optimization/">http://perishablepress.com/press/2009/05/17/png-image-optimization/</a></li>
</ul>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">With all due
respect to my colleagues on this forum, IMO the line between
JPG and other formats is no longer as neat as it once was.
Many screenshots in Win 7 require gradients that JPG handles
well. IMO anything that a photo can handle might not be so
far removed as you might think from basic screen captures,
We are no longer in the cartoony Win 3.x world.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">And since AFAIK
FrameMaker still imports eleventyhundred colors with every
.PNG file, I do not see why a PNG with its headaches is
superior to the no-longer-extant difficulties of the .JPG
format.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Craving
enlightenment…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">john<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com">framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com">mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Grant Hogarth<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 14, 2012 7:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Virginia Morgan<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Recommended graphic file format for
single-sourcing from Frame to Robohelp?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I always vote for PNG. The files may not
be the smallest, but I've never had anything in the past
decade choke on them (not display/corrupt display (either
unreadable or artifacts)/Fail (as in crash)).<br>
<br>
JPEG is fine for Photos, and SVG for line graphics. PS is
fine if you've got the time to render it.<br>
GIF is for icons. <br>
BMP/WMF/EMF should be discontinued.<br>
<br>
You may want to invest in a graphics converter. The two best
(IMO) are FastStone Image Viewer (or just Image Converter) and
IrfanView.<br>
<br>
Grant<br>
<br>
On 1/13/2012 3:23 PM, Virginia Morgan wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hello Framers – <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It has been several years since I have been
part of this group, so I apologize if this topic has been
covered extensively somewhere (if so, please feel free to
point me to it). I have recently resumed my Technical Writing
career at a software development company that uses FrameMaker
to create its documentation. All the legacy manuals were
delivered with the products as hyperlinked PDF files (not
really meant for printing due to length, although one could do
so and they are formatted correctly for that). <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The company recently purchased TCS3, and
would like to single-source Frame files to online help using
Robohelp. I have been trying to find out what would be the
best graphic file format to use for this multi-purpose moving
forward. Some background: All legacy images, which are
primarily screenshots with some flowcharts, were .tif files,
RGB color, 96 dpi (again, intended for on-screen viewing).
Using TCS3 moving forward, is there a better/clear
recommendation for what graphic file format would produce the
best results? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have been searching the web for a few
days and can’t seem to find any information on this particular
aspect of single-sourcing using the new TCS3. Does it not
matter, i.e., does one just set up Robohelp templates to
convert .tifs to .jpgs or similar? <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">All information is very much appreciated.
Thank you, and I am happy to be back to this forum!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Virginia Morgan | Technical Writer<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">TAKE Solutions, Inc.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">O 512.735.4316 | M 512.426.8323 <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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