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Unfortunately I can only reply that we have the same problem, and that I ended up writing docs straight in the wiki (and banging my head on walls). One of ou dev did a nice job to produce neat HTMLs from the Wiki, but it is still very frech (we're currently profreading the first user's guide written this way). For PDF export, nothing matching PDF produced from FM has been done yet.<br><br>What I can say is that I am not happy with that, but devs are, because now I'm using THEIR tool, and them not MINE. But I'm the sole writer and they're stronger than me... :).<br><br>Any help on that question would be much appreciated!<br><br>Cheers,<br>Mathieu<br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: keith.soltys@tmx.com<br>To: framers@lists.frameusers.com<br>Subject: RE: Single sourcing from Frame and a wiki ... or something ...<br>Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 13:02:40 +0000<br><br>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">You may want to look at the Confluence wiki. I know that there is a DITA > Confluence tool (Dita2Wiki?) and WebWorks ePublisher will also convert FM to Confluence.
However, I don’t know if it’s possible to go the other way, or to round-trip content between FM DITA and Confluence. According to Sarah Maddox’s book on wikis, Confluence will import and export DocBook XML so that might be another option.
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Our docs team (4 of us) creates a many-thousand-page multi-chapter user manual in unstructured Frame. Lots of tables and cross-refs.
Conditional text used to publish several variants. Published as PDFs a couple of times a year, delivered online.
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">And the engineers (about 80) have a wiki that's a mish-mash of internal feature development info, some of which ends up in the user
manual.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I've been asked to make the user manual and the internal docs use the same source, which both writers and engineers would write.
We want to work collaboratively, stop duplicating effort and come much closer to real-time updates.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">The engineers would like the wiki to be the source. The writers want to stay with FM. I'm prepared to make everyone change tools
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">As a complicating factor, the engineers are all on Linux. Getting an FM licence per engineer would blow my budget (Adobe, how about
selling a site licence???), and they'd have to run it in Virtual Box. I'm not seeing a happy ending there.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">So ...</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Does anyone know of a good tool for round-tripping Framemaker <--> Wiki?
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Many thanks<br>
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