<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Dear Framers,</div><div><br></div>The author of "Word 排版藝術" clearly shows what is possible to do in MS Word.<div>And, having used Word for over 20 years myself, I'm sure he spent a lot of time and effort doing it.</div><div><br></div><div>However, not how his overly complex TOC has no hypertext links, because Word's cannot generate them automatically.</div><div>You have to add them manually links to your PDF after you generate it, which in turn takes even more time and effort.</div><div><br></div><div>For tech docs, the reader needs correct, complete, and concise information he can find quickly.</div><div>"Word 排版藝術" not such a document.</div><div>And to me, it clearly demonstrates Framemaker's superiority to Word.</div><div><br><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Daniel Doornbos</div><div>Sr. Technical Communicator</div><div>Graphics & Writing</div><div><a href="http://www.graphics-writing.com">www.graphics-writing.com</a></div><div><a href="mailto:daniel@graphics-writing.com">daniel@graphics-writing.com</a></div></div></span></div></span></div></span></span></div></div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 23, 2012, at 5:31 PM, Wei JIANG [PT-CN] wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<pre>Dear Framers,
Many years ago, a programmer and lecturer from Taiwan authored a book -
The Art of Word – Write and Typeset Large Scale Documents - on how to
typeset in Word in an artist's way. That book - around 400 pages -
explains nearly every aspect of Word that the author found useful while
typesetting his own books. Here is a link to a PDF file which contains 2
sample chapters from that book:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://jjhou.boolan.com/lsword-20040516-2chaps.pdf">http://jjhou.boolan.com/lsword-20040516-2chaps.pdf</a> . Even if you do not
read Chinese, I guess you can still feel the "professionalism".
Kindest,
Wei Jiang
English<>Chinese Translator and Multilingual DTPer based in Beijing, China
On 9/24/2012 3:35 AM, Carol J. Elkins wrote:
> I think there is so much more to say about a Frame vs Word comparison
> in a video than stability, single-sourcing, and conditional text. I am
> not an advanced Word user, so it is likely that I simply do not know
> how to force Word to do some of the things that Framemaker does so
> simply, but off the top of my head, managing files at the book level;
> cross-references that remain live when converted to PDF; automatic
> index generation; etc. A quick google for Framemaker versus Word will
> bring up a lengthy laundry list of features that could be demonstrated
> side by side in a video. Granted, in most instances, the Word side
> would simply be sitting there looking dumb while the Frame side zipped
> along making our lives easier.
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> In addition, Scriptorium Publishing outlines a great Frame vs Word
> demo at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.techknowledgecorp.com/demo.html">http://www.techknowledgecorp.com/demo.html</a>
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> I don't have any video experience, but if I did, I'd make this video
> in a heartbeat because I think it would be a well-viewed, valuable
> resource for Framers. I know Adobe can't do it for legal reasons, but
> it would be great if one of us who DOES have video experience could
> build it.
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> Carol
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> At 10:28 AM 9/23/2012, you wrote:
>> I agree that it's a bad idea to show both of them in a video. The
>> main advantages of Unstructured FrameMaker (as I see it) are
>> stability and single-sourcing.
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