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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=449394419-17102012>Not personally - I've just used the review feature to
get comments - never tried merging them back in.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=449394419-17102012>I recall lots of posts on the Adobe FM forum about
failure to merge comments back in. An Adobe employee piped up and said that to
make it work, you can't make any changes after generating the review PDF if you
want to merge them back in. I can see how it would be tough for FM to figure out
where a comment fits back in if the originating section got moved around or
deleted after the review PDF was created.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=449394419-17102012>Maybe this has been improved since it seems an obvious
flaw in people's workflow.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Matt
Sullivan<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:38 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Lief
Erickson<BR><B>Cc:</B> framers@lists.frameusers.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip reviews?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>I dunno…there are lots of scary messages about the document changing,
but I've had total success in saving the docs first, then importing and merging
the comments.
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Even if it fails, it's worth a few minutes of experimenting, as this
feature has saved me *many* hours of tedious updating.<BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Jeff, have you had different results?</DIV>
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<DIV>-Matt</DIV>
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<DIV>On Oct 17, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Lief Erickson <<A
href="mailto:lief@networkinstruments.com">lief@networkinstruments.com</A>>
wrote:</DIV><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">…and
where I work, that never happens, so it means that I have to manually merge
the comments.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
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class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
style="COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com">framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com</A><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>[mailto:framers-<A
style="COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="mailto:bounces@lists.frameusers.com">bounces@lists.frameusers.com</A>]<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><B>On Behalf Of<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></B>Jeff
Coatsworth<BR><B>Sent:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Wednesday, October 17, 2012 2:12
PM<BR><B>To:</B><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
style="COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</A><BR><B>Subject:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>RE: Collaborate with PDF-based
roundtrip reviews?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The one
proviso is that the originating FM doc can't change in any way after the
review PDF is created if you hope to merge comments back into it
later.</SPAN><O:P></O:P></DIV>
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class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
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class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>[<A
style="COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com">mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com</A>]<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><B>On Behalf Of<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></B>Matt
Sullivan<BR><B>Sent:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:04
PM<BR><B>To:</B><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Deanna
Korth<BR><B>Cc:</B><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
style="COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</A><BR><B>Subject:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: Collaborate with PDF-based
roundtrip reviews?</SPAN><O:P></O:P></P>
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<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hi
Deanna<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">First,
they released Acrobat XI today or yesterday, so you'll likely be doing your
work with XI instead of X.<O:P></O:P></DIV>
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<DIV
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<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Next,
you'll need Acrobat Pro on the machine producing the PDF, and from there you
can initiate reviews with your team using anything from Reader (9 or above) to
Acrobat Pro (9 or above). If I recall correctly, this has been true since
Acrobat 5 or so. <O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I
have successfully run reviews with this setup and then migrated comments
back into the FM document (FM 10 and 11) with the supplied workflow, which is
a fraction of the effort required to manually apply changes to the original FM
document.<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
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<DIV
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<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On
Oct 17, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Deanna Korth <<A
style="COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="mailto:deanna.korth@gmail.com">deanna.korth@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hi,<BR><BR>We
are migrating from FrameMaker 7.2 to FrameMaker 11. In our current workflow,
we create a PDF file and use Adobe Acrobat 7.0 Professional to enable
commenting in it so that reviewers who don't have FrameMaker can
electronically review and comment on our FrameMaker documents. We then merge
the electronic comments into the PDF file and manually change the FrameMaker
files accordingly.<BR><BR>For FrameMaker 11, Adobe advertises, "Collaborate
with PDF-based roundtrip reviews." I've searched, but I can't find how these
types of reviews are implemented. Can you briefly explain how this feature
works? Mainly I want to know if we need to purchase Adobe Acrobat Professional
X to retain our ability to solicit electronic reviews from reviewers who don't
have FrameMaker or if the need for Acrobat Professional is eliminated by this
feature in FrameMaker 11.<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><BR
clear=all>Deanna.<O:P></O:P></DIV>
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