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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yes, please provide the contact information for the “service tech” who gave you that misinformation!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> - Dov<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%;border:none;border-top:solid #6A737B 1.0pt'><tr><td width=43 style='width:32.25pt;border:none;padding:0in 15.75pt 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img width=43 height=72 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01CE0AE1.980BC2B0" alt="Description: D:\Documents\Adobe Artwork\2012\Adobe Products\E-mail Signature\adobe_logo_web.png"></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=580 valign=bottom style='width:435.0pt;border:none;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=677 style='width:507.75pt'><tr><td width=218 valign=bottom style='width:163.55pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:11.25pt'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Dov Isaacs</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>Principal Scientist<br>Adobe Systems Incorporated</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=168 valign=bottom style='width:126.2pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:11.25pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>+1 408.536.2896 (tel)<br>+1 408.242.5161 (cell)</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:11.25pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:isaacs@adobe.com"><span style='color:black'>isaacs@adobe.com</span></a></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=291 valign=bottom style='width:218.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:11.25pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>345 Park Avenue<br>San Jose, CA 95110-2704 USA<br><a href="http://www.adobe.com/"><span style='color:black'>http://www.adobe.com</span></a></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table></td><td valign=bottom style='border:none;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td colspan=3 style='border:none;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#00B050'>Feel free to print this e-mail if your needs dictate hard copy.<br>There is no need to feel guilty about printing!<br>Paper is renewable and recyclable.<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#00B050'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>ISAACS-OFFICE.corp.adobe.com<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ken Poshedly<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> Dave.Stamm@gdc4s.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com; techwr-l@techwr-l.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>To all,<br><br>I will be glad to supply the specific adobe.com e-mail address for the service tech (Shekhar, in India) that I talked with earlier today (Wednesday) in private (off-list) e-mails.<br><br>He was very professional, seemed to understand the specifics of my problem and even phoned me right back when our call dropped.<br><br>I also provided him with the specific internal error numbers that came up in the FM 11.0 crash notification pop-up window. (They were the same at each crash.)<br><br>He then confirmed what I described and asked if I could be placed on "hold" while he checked into it.<br><br>I was on hold perhaps no more than a minute when he came back on the line and told me that the fix is to place the working files on the same hard drive where FM 11.0 is installed.<br><br>I inquired as to if he is sure about this and he agreed without hesitation, saying this was sp[ecific with FM 11.0 (I don't recall if it does or will apply to FM 12.0.)<br><br>As I described in another e-mail here, that SEEMS to have cleared up my coworker's problem. It's been an hour or so since he got back into things and so far, no more crashes.<br><br>Please note that my coworker's FM crash problems occurred intermittently, perhaps several times a week and not all day every day, so we'll have to see what happens over the next few days, etc.<br><br>I'm still on FM 8.0 and because I like the user interface as it is and I've had no crash problems, I might just stay with it, eh?<br><br>-- Ken in Atlanta<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> "<a href="mailto:Dave.Stamm@gdc4s.com">Dave.Stamm@gdc4s.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:Dave.Stamm@gdc4s.com">Dave.Stamm@gdc4s.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a>; <a href="mailto:techwr-l@techwr-l.com">techwr-l@techwr-l.com</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Wed, February 13, 2013 2:52:16 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>2013-02-13-03T19:50Z</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>¡_YIKES_!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If Ken was informed correctly, below — and I _really_ hope he was _not_ — then that effectively rings the death knell of FrameMaker’s use by my employer.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It was in only the last month that I got upgraded to FrameMaker 11, but I’m happy to report that I haven’t encountered this type of problem. To conform to _corporate_requirements_ we have FrameMaker installed on our C:\ drives, but the files we produce and edit are on a server, so we work with them across our local area network and, sometimes, the wide-area network.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dov, if you see this, will you please confirm, modify, or refute the information Ken posted below?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>¡Thanks!</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dave Stamm</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Information Engineer</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.™</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fort Wayne, Indiana 46804-1552; US</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>tel: 260-434-9620 fax: 260.434.9501 / 9509</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:dave.stamm@gdc4s.com">dave.stamm@gdc4s.com</a> <a href="http://www.gdc4s.com/" target="_blank">http://www.gdc4s.com/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This message and / or attachments may include information subject to GDC4S S.P. 1.8.6 and GD Corporate Policy 07-105 and are intended to be accessed only by authorized recipients. 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If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the original message.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com">framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com</a> [<a href="mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com">mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Syed Zaeem Hosain (<a href="mailto:Syed.Hosain@aeris.net">Syed.Hosain@aeris.net</a>)<br><b>Sent:</b> 2013-02-13-Wednesday 14:24<br><b>To:</b> Fred Ridder; <a href="mailto:poshedly@bellsouth.net">poshedly@bellsouth.net</a>; <a href="mailto:robert@lauriston.com">robert@lauriston.com</a>; <a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a>; <a href="mailto:techwr-l@techwr-l.com">techwr-l@techwr-l.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ken Poshedly <<a href="mailto:poshedly@bellsouth.net" target="_blank">poshedly@bellsouth.net</a>> wrote:<br>> I just learned from Adobe tech support (via phone call) that the permissions in<br>> FrameMaker 11.0 have been modified so that the data files should also be on the<br>> same hard drive where FM 11.0 is installed. Working across drives (FM here, data<br>> files there) is no longer an accepted practice -- at least not with FM11.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Seriously? I can understand network-based locations causing issues, but I have _<i>never</i>_ seen a problem where an executable (FrameMaker or otherwise!) is on one drive and the “data” files are on a separate drive _<i>on the *<b>same</b>* system</i>_.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In fact, I do this right now – my C drive is the usual location for all executables (FrameMaker, Office, compilers, etc.) and my E drive contains all my other files (including the books and files I work on).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>And, I do not have any problems with this setup whatsoever. I am surprised that Adobe thinks that this would be a problem in any way! If really accurate, this would be a strange, and completely unacceptable, artificial constraint.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Z</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>