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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>2013-02-15-05T14:05Z<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dove and Kapil –<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>ˇThanks _so_ much for your customarily clear and explicit responses! You — and all the others who have posted to this “conversation” have certainly sorted out a good many things for me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dave Stamm<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Information Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.™<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fort Wayne, Indiana 46804-1552; US<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>tel: 260-434-9620 fax: 260.434.9501 / 9509<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>dave.stamm@gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This message and / or attachments may include information subject to GDC4S S.P. 1.8.6 and GD Corporate Policy 07-105 and are intended to be accessed only by authorized recipients. Use, storage and transmission are governed by General Dynamics and its policies. Contractual restrictions apply to third parties. Recipients should refer to the policies or contract to determine proper handling. Unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the original message.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Dov Isaacs [mailto:isaacs@adobe.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> 2013-02-14-Thursday 16:05<br><b>To:</b> framers@lists.frameusers.com<br><b>Cc:</b> Stamm, David-P45904; techwr-l@techwr-l.com<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sorry I couldn’t respond to this thread earlier. Driving much of the day yesterday and I don’t “do e-mail” while driving. </span><span style='font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am seriously hoping that there was a serious misunderstanding between Ken Poshedly and the tech support person he spoke with. Maybe a language issue one of a definition of what a “data file” is.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>For the record, there is absolutely no restriction in FrameMaker – any version – as to where FrameMaker document files (<i>.fm</i> files), FrameMaker book files, or any assets used by same may reside on a user’s system. As long as Windows can open the file for input and output, FrameMaker can open the document or book. FrameMaker documents may be on the system volume or any other volume available under Windows including external drives, SSDs, thumb drives, network shares, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Then there are the “data files” used internally by FrameMaker including those in</span><i><span style='font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'> <<b>X:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker11</b>\fminit> </span></i><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>where</span><span style='font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'> <b><i>X:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker11</i></b> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>is the location where you designate that FrameMaker be installed and</span><i><span style='font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'> <C:\Users\<b>username</b>\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\FrameMaker\11> </span></i><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> where </span><span style='font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'> <b><i>username</i></b> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>is the user’s Window login ID. Maybe there was some issue of what happens if you designate a location for FrameMaker installation that isn’t the system volume <i>or </i>if you move the</span><i><span style='font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'> <C:\Users\<b>username</b>></span></i><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> directory to someplace other than the system volume. I have <i>not </i>experienced problems with FrameMaker 11 installed on a volume other than the system volume. I have not attempted to muck around with location of the</span><i><span style='font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'> <C:\Users\<b>username</b>></span></i><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> directory which could be playing with fire with not only FrameMaker, but other Windows applications.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Nonetheless, assuming a reasonably normal installation of FrameMaker 11, you should have no problem with storing your FrameMaker documents and associated assets anywhere that you can open a file within your system’s file system.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> - Dov<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%;border:none;border-top:solid #6A737B 1.0pt'><tr><td width=43 style='width:32.25pt;border:none;padding:0in 15.75pt 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img width=43 height=72 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01CE0B5B.7CACEC40" alt="Description: D:\Documents\Adobe Artwork\2012\Adobe Products\E-mail Signature\adobe_logo_web.png"><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=580 valign=bottom style='width:435.0pt;border:none;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=677 style='width:507.75pt'><tr><td width=218 valign=bottom style='width:163.55pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:11.25pt'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Dov Isaacs</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>Principal Scientist<br>Adobe Systems Incorporated<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=168 valign=bottom style='width:126.2pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:11.25pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>+1 408.536.2896 (tel)<br>+1 408.242.5161 (cell)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:11.25pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:isaacs@adobe.com"><span style='color:black'>isaacs@adobe.com</span></a></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=291 valign=bottom style='width:218.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:11.25pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>345 Park Avenue<br>San Jose, CA 95110-2704 USA<br><a href="http://www.adobe.com/"><span style='color:black'>http://www.adobe.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table></td><td valign=bottom style='border:none;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td colspan=3 style='border:none;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#00B050'>Feel free to print this e-mail if your needs dictate hard copy.<br>There is no need to feel guilty about printing!<br>Paper is renewable and recyclable.<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#00B050'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>ISAACS-OFFICE.corp.adobe.com<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com">framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com</a> [<a href="mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com">mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:Dave.Stamm@gdc4s.com">Dave.Stamm@gdc4s.com</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:50 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a>; <a href="mailto:techwr-l@techwr-l.com">techwr-l@techwr-l.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>2013-02-13-03T19:50Z<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>ˇ_YIKES_!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If Ken was informed correctly, below — and I _really_ hope he was _not_ — then that effectively rings the death knell of FrameMaker’s use by my employer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It was in only the last month that I got upgraded to FrameMaker 11, but I’m happy to report that I haven’t encountered this type of problem. To conform to _corporate_requirements_ we have FrameMaker installed on our C:\ drives, but the files we produce and edit are on a server, so we work with them across our local area network and, sometimes, the wide-area network.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dov, if you see this, will you please confirm, modify, or refute the information Ken posted below?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>ˇThanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dave Stamm<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Information Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.™<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fort Wayne, Indiana 46804-1552; US<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>tel: 260-434-9620 fax: 260.434.9501 / 9509<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:dave.stamm@gdc4s.com">dave.stamm@gdc4s.com</a> <a href="http://www.gdc4s.com/">http://www.gdc4s.com/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This message and / or attachments may include information subject to GDC4S S.P. 1.8.6 and GD Corporate Policy 07-105 and are intended to be accessed only by authorized recipients. Use, storage and transmission are governed by General Dynamics and its policies. Contractual restrictions apply to third parties. Recipients should refer to the policies or contract to determine proper handling. Unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the original message.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com">framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com</a> [<a href="mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com">mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Syed Zaeem Hosain (<a href="mailto:Syed.Hosain@aeris.net">Syed.Hosain@aeris.net</a>)<br><b>Sent:</b> 2013-02-13-Wednesday 14:24<br><b>To:</b> Fred Ridder; <a href="mailto:poshedly@bellsouth.net">poshedly@bellsouth.net</a>; <a href="mailto:robert@lauriston.com">robert@lauriston.com</a>; <a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a>; <a href="mailto:techwr-l@techwr-l.com">techwr-l@techwr-l.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ken Poshedly <<a href="mailto:poshedly@bellsouth.net">poshedly@bellsouth.net</a>> wrote:<br>> I just learned from Adobe tech support (via phone call) that the permissions in<br>> FrameMaker 11.0 have been modified so that the data files should also be on the<br>> same hard drive where FM 11.0 is installed. Working across drives (FM here, data<br>> files there) is no longer an accepted practice -- at least not with FM11.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Seriously? I can understand network-based locations causing issues, but I have _<i>never</i>_ seen a problem where an executable (FrameMaker or otherwise!) is on one drive and the “data” files are on a separate drive _<i>on the *<b>same</b>* system</i>_.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In fact, I do this right now – my C drive is the usual location for all executables (FrameMaker, Office, compilers, etc.) and my E drive contains all my other files (including the books and files I work on).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>And, I do not have any problems with this setup whatsoever. I am surprised that Adobe thinks that this would be a problem in any way! If really accurate, this would be a strange, and completely unacceptable, artificial constraint.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Z<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>