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<p>Hello Fred,</p>
<p>I just tried: printing to the PDF printer uses the standard size, e.g. DIN A4, if this is set. Which is absolutely not what the "save as PDF" option does.</p>
<p>So I would have to go to the settings to adjust over and over again. It does not seem an efficient method, as I am dealing with many different formats... <br />Or did I miss something here?</p>
<p>Best regards -</p>
<p>Tino H. Haida</p>
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<p>Am 2013-02-14 21:04, schrieb Fred Ridder:</p>
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<div dir="ltr">Art never recommended that you write a PostScript file.<br />What he recommended is that you *print* to the Adobe PDF virtual printer. This creates a PDF file directly, but uses a predictable set of Distiller settings (unlike Save As PDF, which is affected by setting in at least three different locations if I recall correctly). Printing to the Adobe PDF virtual printer takes essentially the same amount of time that the Save As PDF method does; the last time I tested the two methods against one another, printing to the Adobe PDF printer was faster than Save As PDF about 1/3 of the time and was only significantly slower on one test document.<br />And printing to the Adobe PDF virtual printer does use the page size defined in FrameMaker, just as Save As PDF does.<br /><br />-Fred Ridder<br /><br />
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<hr id="stopSpelling" />Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 01:32:23 +0100<br />From: info@heiko-haida.de<br />To: framers@lists.frameusers.com<br />Subject: Re: cannot generate PDF<br /><br /> Hello Art,<br /> well, I do not see any disadvantages in using the "save as pdf" option.<br /> Quite the contrary: The resulting PDF will by default have exactly the same page size as the Frame file. This is very helpful if you're switching much between different and unusual formats.<br /> And the best is: "Saving" the PDF will be about 10 times faster than writing a postscript file.<br /> I am often producing postscript files with 1 GB or more - instead of half an hour this only takes a few minutes.<br /> Best regards <br /> Tino H. Haida<br />
<blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; width: 100%;">A few others in the forum are likely to disagree.... but I think it sucks. :-) <br /><br />There have always been issues with it over the years and releases, so much so that I just quit using it myself (still have to use it to debug for others) in the FM7 time frame because it was too buggy. It has always used an arcane interface that, when it works, uses a totally different method of specking and creating the PDF file than printing to the Acrobat logical printer instance. It is much improved in the 11 release, but I still haven't gotten into the habit of using it at all. <br /><br />I follow the KISS principle and just print to the Acrobat printer. It's more controllable and more stable, IMHO than its evil twin.<br /><br />Bottom line is if the SaveAs PDF isn't working for you, try printing to the Acrobat printer instead; it's become a basic debugging step to determine if the problem is in the output generation or in the files.<br /><br />Cheers,<br />Art<br /><br clear="all" /><br />
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<div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Theresa de Valence <span><<a href="mailto:TdeV@bstw.com">TdeV@bstw.com</a>></span> wrote:<br />
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<div class="ecxim">On 2/13/2013 8:02 AM, Art Campbell wrote:<br />
<blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">In particular, if you get the same results printing<br /> to the Adobe Acrobat logical printer as when you use SaveAs PDF<br /> (which I wouldn't recommend).</blockquote>
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Art,<br /><br /> Are you saying that SaveAs PDF is not good?<span class="ecxHOEnZb"><span style="color: #888888;"><br /><br /> Theresa<br /></span></span></blockquote>
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