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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Alison,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I would ask your translation agency what they exactly do</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">with your FrameMaker and graphics files. If they store the</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">graphics files on another drive, the paths become absolute.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">That should not happen.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The agency should use the very same directory structure as</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">you have.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Best regards</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Winfried</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alison Craig<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Paul Wilbraham; 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'; Harvey, Peggy<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Relative vs. absolute links</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">I would agree, as when I send the files out – all on the same drive – everything works fine with relative paths.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">But when they come back – still all on the same drive – they are returned with absolute paths.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">That’s my dilemma. The relative positions of the files don’t change – but the paths become absolute anyway.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Note that while my version control database is on a network drive, all files are checked out to a local drive when they are being worked on, so
there is no network issue, at least on my end.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Alison</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Paul Wilbraham [<a href="mailto:paul.wilbraham@m-ais.com">mailto:paul.wilbraham@m-ais.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alison Craig; 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'; Harvey, Peggy<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Relative vs. absolute links</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">We find that graphics on the same drive as the original files are relative. Graphics on a separate drive are absolute.
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">On 27 February 2013 at 18:09 Alison Craig <<a href="mailto:Alison.Craig@ultrasonix.com">Alison.Craig@ultrasonix.com</a>> wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">I’d love to hear an explanation as I often have the same relative/absolute issue with graphics and xrefs when my files
are returned from the translators.</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Although in my case, everything is done in FM 9 or with the MIF 9 format – so my issue has nothing to do with Frame
versioning.</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Alison</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">PS: All FM files used to create the Book are in a single folder with graphics in a series of subfolders.</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><strong><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></strong><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com">framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com</a> [<a href="mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com">mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com</a>]
<strong><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">On Behalf Of </span></strong>Harvey, Peggy<br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Sent:</span></strong> Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:41 AM<br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">To:</span></strong> 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'<br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Subject:</span></strong> Relative vs. absolute links</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Hi Framers,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">FM 9 p 237 and FM 7 p576</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Situation: Converting files between FM 7 and FM 9. All links and file references are relative when I start but appear to become absolute when I convert either way.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">I need to share files with a coworker at another site. I have FM 9 and he has FM 7. The files, including the book file, are always all in a single directory with a “Graphics” subdirectory for
all graphics.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Here’s the sequence of events:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">1) The files were originally in FM 7. (When I inherited them, at least.) I put them on a network drive in that form, without converting them to FM 9.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">2) My coworker edited the files, then put them back on the network drive so I could do some clean up work on them. I moved them to a different network drive to do the work.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">3) I opened all of the files in FM 9, therefore converting them to FM 9 format. I did my cleanup, including fixing the graphics path to the “Graphics” subfolder and fixing cross-reference links
that were broken. In retrospect I believe cross-references within the same file were okay but cross-references between files were all broken.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">4) When I finished my work I saved each individual file and the book file in MIF 7.0 format. I saved the MIF files in a different folder than the FM 9 files and copied the “Graphics” directory
to the same folder as the MIF files.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">5) I opened each MIF file and the MIF book file in FM 7, then saved each one in .fm (or .book) format.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">6) I noticed that the book file seemed to be referring to the the previous files – the FM 9 files with the same names in the different folder. I deleted all of the file references and added
all of the FM 7 files that I’d just created. So the FM 7 book file and individual files were all in the same folder.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">6) When I went to generate the book I got an error log that all of the cross-references I’d fixed in FM 9 were unresolved again. Upon further inspection I discovered all of the graphics had
the wrong path, too – they were linked absolutely to the “Graphics” folder in my FM 9 folder, not to the relative “Graphics” folder I’d copied to the FM 7 folder.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">My question: Why are the links and references to files (graphics and cross-references) changing from relative to absolute paths when I convert from one version to another? At least that’s what
seems to be happening, either when I open FM 7 files directly in FM 9 or when I go through the MIF to convert from FM 9 back to FM 7. Anyone have any insight to this?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">FYI: Our final solution is we’re STRONGLY recommending my coworker upgrade to FM 9 as soon as possible. I’m hoping he’ll be able to even though Adobe is on FM 11 now. I’ve seen the traffic on
the list about FM 11; I have no desire to update to it at this time so I’m hoping he doesn’t have to, either.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Peggy</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">
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