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<DIV>We're dealing with something similar by using conditions with colored text for product variations and conditions wiith background shading for feature variations. You could give your short/advanced conditions background shading instead of colored text. </DIV>
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<DIV>Rebecca <BR><BR>>>> Alison Craig <Alison.Craig@ultrasonix.com> 20/04/13 04:39 >>><BR></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal>Great, Helen.<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal>Another way of doing it might have been to create colors under the names of the condition names: eOnly, Print1, etc. That way you would not have to remember any color names or to which condition each color applied.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 4:28 AM, Helen Borrie <<A href="mailto:helebor@iinet.net.au" target=_blank>helebor@iinet.net.au</A>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal>Recently I broke up a very large eBook into three volumes for print. It's the first time I've using conditionals seriously. I followed the advice in Sarah O'Keefe's book and avoided having overlapping conditions. I had to play around a bit until I got useful contrasts.<BR><BR>The book said that FM would show all overlapping conditions as magenta so it would be a good idea to avoid assigning magenta to a particular condition. In fact, I never saw magenta at all; all the overlaps that I had in my initial scheme (subsequently abandoned) came through as a sort of khaki when I did the conditionals for the first chapter. That's when I decided Sarah was right and I should not try to piggyback the same conditions.<BR><BR>The scheme I ended up with was five conditions: eOnly, printOnly, Print1, Print2 and Print3. (I have a navigation scheme built into the e-Version, which was not appropriate for the print books. The book will never have an omnibus print edition as it is waaaay too large.)<BR><BR>I picked the brightest possible high-contrast colours for the five conditions (avoiding magenta by Sarah's advice and blue because the Silicon Prairie indexing tools use blue for index markers. I also avoided red because Fm8 seems to use it as a warning when conditions conflict in some way.) I think I had forest green for eOnly, green for Print1, cyan for Print2, salmon for Print3 and dark blue for printOnly.<BR><BR>On thing I did find was that it is very easy to change the entire colour scheme. Once I had it pinned down, I just kept a card by me with the colours on it, so I didn't have to think about it when repeatedly swapping condition markers between {a colour} and {As Is}.<BR><BR>HTH, maybe a little bit, anyway...<BR>Helen<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR><BR><BR>You are currently subscribed to framers as <A href="mailto:bodvar@gmail.com">bodvar@gmail.com</A>.<BR><BR>Send list messages to <A href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</A>.<BR><BR>To unsubscribe send a blank email to<BR><A href="mailto:framers-unsubscribe@lists.frameusers.com">framers-unsubscribe@lists.frameusers.com</A><BR>or visit <A href="http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com" target=_blank>http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com</A><BR><BR>Send administrative questions to <A href="mailto:listadmin@frameusers.com">listadmin@frameusers.com</A>. Visit<BR><A href="http://www.frameusers.com/" target=_blank>http://www.frameusers.com/</A> for more resources and info.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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