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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Hi,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">As far as I know magenta was applied to overlapping conditions in previous</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">versions of FrameMaker (7?). Helen uses version 9. Its help says:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">This color is midway of all colors of the condition tags that you have already</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Possibly Helen’s FrameMaker book, which mentioned magenta for overlapping</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">conditions, was about an earlier FrameMaker version.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Best regards</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alison Craig<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 19, 2013 6:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Böðvar Björgvinsson; Helen Borrie<br>
<b>Cc:</b> framers@lists.frameusers.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Selecting Colours for Conditions</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#002850">Thanks guys. Unfortunately, my original Conditions are for a very different purpose than what you describe.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#002850">We have 5 different hardware platforms for our medical device, but a large portion of the book is common to all platforms. Currently, my Conditions
cover the differences between the platforms – and many times, the same info will pertain to only 1 or perhaps 2, 3 or 4 platforms, but not all five. By definition, those Conditions overlap.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#002850">I am now having to devise Short and Advanced versions of the book. Up to 95% of this will be covered by the inclusion/exclusion of Chapters and
Appendices in a new book, but a small amount of content within the book files themselves will have to conditionalized as Short or Advanced.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#002850">I was hoping to save a little time, but I guess that’s not possible.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#002850">As for overlapping Conditions ending up as magenta, I did have some of that problem, but I also had a problem with muddy blues and the khaki issue
you mention. That’s why it took so long to determine the correct mix of colours in the first place – especially as I used to cover
<u>6</u> platforms in one book, not just the 5 I currently do.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#002850">Alison</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com">framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com</a> [<a href="mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com">mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Böðvar Björgvinsson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 19, 2013 4:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Helen Borrie<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Selecting Colours for Conditions</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Great, Helen.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Another way of doing it might have been to create colors under the names of the condition names: eOnly, Print1, etc. That way you would not have to remember any color names or to which condition
each color applied.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Cheers,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 4:28 AM, Helen Borrie <<a href="mailto:helebor@iinet.net.au" target="_blank">helebor@iinet.net.au</a>> wrote:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">At 09:17 a.m. 19/04/2013, Alison Craig wrote:<br>
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>FM 9 Version: 9.0p255<br>
>Unstructured<br>
>OS: Windows 7, 64 bit<br>
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>Does anyone know if any kind of “guide” exists regarding the best colours to choose when creating Conditions?<br>
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>When I initially set up my Conditions, I spent a lot of time testing to see how colours blended when I had multiple Conditions applied to the same text (lots of combos ended up being virtually identical onscreen even though the combination of underlying colours
were quite different). It didn’t make sense to use colours in the first place if I couldn’t tell where one combo stopped and the next one started.<br>
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>I now have to add 2 new conditions (on a tight deadline) so I really don’t have a lot of time to test things. If someone has put together some kind of guide, I’d really love to see it – if you’re willing to share.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Recently I broke up a very large eBook into three volumes for print. It's the first time I've using conditionals seriously. I followed the advice in Sarah O'Keefe's book and avoided having
overlapping conditions. I had to play around a bit until I got useful contrasts.<br>
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The book said that FM would show all overlapping conditions as magenta so it would be a good idea to avoid assigning magenta to a particular condition. In fact, I never saw magenta at all; all the overlaps that I had in my initial scheme (subsequently abandoned)
came through as a sort of khaki when I did the conditionals for the first chapter. That's when I decided Sarah was right and I should not try to piggyback the same conditions.<br>
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The scheme I ended up with was five conditions: eOnly, printOnly, Print1, Print2 and Print3. (I have a navigation scheme built into the e-Version, which was not appropriate for the print books. The book will never have an omnibus print edition as it is waaaay
too large.)<br>
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I picked the brightest possible high-contrast colours for the five conditions (avoiding magenta by Sarah's advice and blue because the Silicon Prairie indexing tools use blue for index markers. I also avoided red because Fm8 seems to use it as a warning when
conditions conflict in some way.) I think I had forest green for eOnly, green for Print1, cyan for Print2, salmon for Print3 and dark blue for printOnly.<br>
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On thing I did find was that it is very easy to change the entire colour scheme. Once I had it pinned down, I just kept a card by me with the colours on it, so I didn't have to think about it when repeatedly swapping condition markers between {a colour} and
{As Is}.<br>
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HTH, maybe a little bit, anyway...<br>
Helen<br>
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