<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Also, SaaS and subscription are different concepts.<div><br></div><div>SaaS (like SalesForce, Jira, BaseCamp, Web(prettymuchanything) and many others) are web portals where the computing occurs across a network.</div><div><br></div><div>Subscription means that you confirm your ability to run the software installed on (and processed on) your local machine. (Diety of choice) forbid you try and run Photoshop, Illustrator, or Captivate as SaaS!!</div><div><br></div><div>Since TCS followed Creative Cloud's (and thus Adobe's) lead in offering subscriptions, I'd say the writing's pretty much on the wall. However, given the amount of chatter devoted to bug fixes instead of bright shiny new (not terribly requested) new features, this might be the point where resources can be devoted instead to fixing those long-standing issues (pre-version 7!) that never rose to the level of importance given to new, profit-oriented version releases.<br><div>
<p style="font-family: Times; "></p><p></p><p style="font-family: Times; "></p><p></p><p style="font-family: Times; "></p><p></p><p style="font-family: Times; "></p><p></p><p style="font-family: Times; "></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="font-family: Times; "></p><p></p><p></p><p style="font-family: arial, helvetica; "></p><p></p><p style="font-family: arial, helvetica; "></p><p></p><p style="font-family: arial, helvetica; "></p><p></p><p style="font-family: arial, helvetica; "><br>-Matt<br></p><div id="sig" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; width: 500px; color: rgb(0, 51, 153); "><span style="font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold; ">Matt R. 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</div><br><div><div>On May 9, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Art Campbell <<a href="mailto:art.campbell@gmail.com">art.campbell@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">I have to agree with John, and last year I would have totally bet the<br>other way.<br><br>I was, accidentally, an early Cloud subscriber because I couldn't<br>afford to set up new systems with new software. But I could handle the<br>$1 a day charge paid monthly, so that's what I opted for, and it's<br>been fine.<br><br>The software is always up to date and if I need a package that I don't<br>have installed, it's just point and click without an additional<br>charge.<br><br>So far, the model's working well for me.<br><br>Art<br><br>Art Campbell<br> <a href="mailto:art.campbell@gmail.com">art.campbell@gmail.com</a><br> "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52<br>Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson<br> No disclaimers apply.<br> DoD 358<br><br>I support <a href="http://www.TheGrotonLine.com">www.TheGrotonLine.com</a>, hyperlocal news for Groton MA.<br><br><br>On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:18 PM, John Posada <<a href="mailto:jposada99@gmail.com">jposada99@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Actualy, i think they would jump on it. They can spread out the cost evenly<br>over a period of time and if the employee leaves, they can stop the<br>charges...they arent out the full cost. It also changes from capital<br>purchase to operating expense that is treated differently on the books.<br><br>On May 9, 2013 1:12 PM, "Alison Craig" <<a href="mailto:Alison.Craig@ultrasonix.com">Alison.Craig@ultrasonix.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>It's not just freelancers that will be affected. Until my company was<br>recently purchased by a larger organization, I had always worked for small<br>to medium-sized businesses as the sole writer. Trying to get a budget for<br>tools could be like pulling teeth. I somehow doubt most of my former<br>employers would ever go for the subscription model.<br><br>Which means for many sole writers, it will be back to using Word!<br><br>Alison<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com">framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com</a><br>[mailto:framers-<a href="mailto:bounces@lists.frameusers.com">bounces@lists.frameusers.com</a>] On Behalf Of Writer<br>Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 9:57 AM<br>To: Steve Rickaby; <a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a><br>Subject: Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription<br>only<br><br>I was wondering when someone was going to bring this up. I share your<br>sentiments/fears exactly, Steve.<br><br>Nadine<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br><blockquote type="cite">From: Steve Rickaby <<a href="mailto:srickaby@wordmongers.demon.co.uk">srickaby@wordmongers.demon.co.uk</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a><br>Cc:<br>Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 12:37:59 PM<br>Subject: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription<br>only<br><br>I have just heard a rumor that the CS Suite is going to available in<br>future only on an SaaS basis, by subscription. TCS/FrameMaker could<br>follow?<br><br>I do wonder whether the accountants that run large corporates like<br>Adobe understand how important their software is to the countless<br>thousands of freelances who have to scrape every last penny to buy it<br>- but at least then they own something, not vapor that goes phut as soon<br>as you stop paying for it.<br><br>For the last two decades FrameMaker, Illustrator, Acrobat and<br>Dreamweaver have been the rocks underpinning what I do. I'm far less<br>sure about the future, though.<br><br>--<br>Steve [somewhat aghast]<br></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br><br><br>You are currently subscribed to framers as <a href="mailto:alison.craig@ultrasonix.com">alison.craig@ultrasonix.com</a>.<br><br>Send list messages to <a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a>.<br><br>To unsubscribe send a blank email to<br><a href="mailto:framers-unsubscribe@lists.frameusers.com">framers-unsubscribe@lists.frameusers.com</a><br>or visit<br>http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com<br><br>Send administrative questions to listadmin@frameusers.com. 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