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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Hi Elchanan,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>PDFill is a PDF editor, not a PDF creator. The pdfmark issue is with PDF creators. They need to read the pdfmark code that FrameMaker embeds in the PostScript stream to create bookmarks, links, etc. as the PDF file is created. They do have a free PDF Writer, but it is not clear if it supports pdfmark. But it would easy enough to try it. Use it to make a PDF from a FrameMaker document and see if you get bookmarks, links from your xrefs, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Rick<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Rick Quatro<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Carmen Publishing Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>585-283-5045<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>rick@frameexpert.com<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>VLM TechSubs<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 19, 2013 1:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> framers@lists.frameusers.com<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: PDF and Alternatives to Acrobat ... PDFill Editor ???<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>Hi everyone,<br><br>A while ago, we had this discussion about replacements for Acrobat, from a FrameMaker perspective. Seemed like not much was available. At the time, Rick mentioned that any replacement would need to provide support for PDFmarks PostScript code (if I have that correct). So I wrote off to various vendors. Most had either never heard of this or do not support it. But one vendor, PDFill (see below), sent back this link to look at:<br><br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><a href="http://www.pdfill.com/pdf_batch_command.html#9">http://www.pdfill.com/pdf_batch_command.html#9</a> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><br><br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>Rick (and others :), I don't know enough to know whether this information has any connection at all with PDFmarks PostScript code. Would you (anyone with the expertise) be willing to take a look ... it's quite brief, I think.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>Thank you kindly,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>Elchanan<o:p></o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><hr size=3 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoPlainText>From: VLM TechSubs [<a href="mailto:TechSubs@VibrantLivingMinistries.org">mailto:TechSubs@VibrantLivingMinistries.org</a>] <br>Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 5:27 PM<br>To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'<br>Subject: RE: PDF and Alternatives to Acrobat [WAS Re: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?]<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>There is also PDFill PDF Editor, <a href="https://www.pdfill.com/pdf_tools_free.html"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>https://www.pdfill.com/pdf_tools_free.html</span></a>. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Elchanan<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: VLM TechSubs [<a href="mailto:TechSubs@VibrantLivingMinistries.org"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>mailto:TechSubs@VibrantLivingMinistries.org</span></a>] <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 5:23 PM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: 'Syed Zaeem Hosain (<a href="mailto:Syed.Hosain@aeris.net"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>Syed.Hosain@aeris.net</span></a>)'; 'Shmuel Wolfson'; 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: RE: PDF and Alternatives to Acrobat [WAS Re: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?]<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>What about PDF Creator, <a href="http://www.pdfforge.org/"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://www.pdfforge.org/</span></a>? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: <a href="mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com</span></a> [<a href="mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com</span></a>] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (<a href="mailto:Syed.Hosain@aeris.net"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>Syed.Hosain@aeris.net</span></a>)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 4:20 PM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: Shmuel Wolfson; <a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>framers@lists.frameusers.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: RE: PDF and Alternatives to Acrobat [WAS Re: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?]<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Thanks for the list! It will help me during my evaluations soon. An addition to your list:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>"easyPDF" from BCL Technologies ($29.95) <a href="http://www.pdfonline.com/easypdf/pdf-printer/"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://www.pdfonline.com/easypdf/pdf-printer/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>And I think, but not sure, that Pdf995 costs ($9.95) to get "without a sponsor page" ... all their tools cost this, hence the "995" in the name. :) Their "PdfEdit995" and "PdfSignature995" products adds the capability to add combine/extract pages, encryption, etc.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Z<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: <a href="mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com</span></a> [<a href="mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com</span></a>] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 9:41 AM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: <a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>framers@lists.frameusers.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: Re: PDF and Alternatives to Acrobat {WAS Re: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?]<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I apologize if this is off topic, but here is a list of Acrobat alternatives. (Please feel free to send me corrections or updates.)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Free:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>- A free plug-in is available for Word 2007; comes with 2010<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>- Bullzip PDF Printer<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>- PDF995<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>- PrimoPDF<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>- CutePDF<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <a href="http://www.acrosoftware.com/Products/CutePDF/Printer.asp"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>www.acrosoftware.com/Products/CutePDF/Printer.asp</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>- Create PS file using any PS printer, then use GSview to convert to<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> PDF (GSview requires GhostScript, also free)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Not Free (prices are as of Sep 27, 2012):<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>- PDF Fusion ($49.99)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <a href="http://www.corel.com/corel/product/index.jsp?pid=prod4100140"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>www.corel.com/corel/product/index.jsp?pid=prod4100140</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Creates bookmarks and links from Word.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>- Nitro Pro ($119.99)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <a href="http://www.nitropdf.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>www.nitropdf.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Creates bookmarks and links from Word.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>- Nuance PDF Converter Pro ($99.99)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>- Jaws PDF Creator ($64)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <a href="http://www.jawspdf.com/products.html"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>www.jawspdf.com/products.html</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Creates bookmarks and links from Word, but does not support<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Windows 7; probably not Windows 8 either.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Shmuel Wolfson<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Technical Writer<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>052-763-7133<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>