<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"><base href="x-msg://8546/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I'll defer to any corrections Scott has on this topic, but I don't think Adobe will consider this a bug.<div><br></div><div>One of the advantages of using Fm to edit structure is that many formatting attributes can be controlled via Fm's interactive properties.</div><div><br></div><div>Attributes are typically mapped to Fm attributes via the Read/Write rules in your structured application. To change that behavior, you would change the files that make up the structured application.<br><div>
<p style="font-family: Times; "></p><p></p><p style="font-family: Times; "></p><p></p><p style="font-family: Times; "></p><p></p><p style="font-family: Times; "></p><p></p><p style="font-family: Times; "></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="font-family: Times; "></p><p></p><p></p><p style="font-family: arial, helvetica; "></p><p></p><p style="font-family: arial, helvetica; "></p><p></p><p style="font-family: arial, helvetica; "></p><p></p><p style="font-family: arial, helvetica; "><br>-Matt<br></p><div id="sig" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; width: 500px; color: rgb(0, 51, 153); "><span style="font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold; ">Matt R. 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</div><br><div><div>On Jun 11, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Heather Thomas <<a href="mailto:hthomas@avbasesystems.com">hthomas@avbasesystems.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; ">Thank you very much, Scott! I appreciate your feedback. When I was looking for an image properties dialog, I came across the Anchored Frame dialog and you're right, it does set the alignment attribute too.<br><br>I will report the bug to Adobe because I'd prefer to not have to set that for each image!<br><br>Heather<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br><br><div>Scott Prentice <<a href="mailto:sp10@leximation.com">sp10@leximation.com</a>> , 6/11/2013 3:34 PM:<br><blockquote class="mcnt" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(51, 102, 102); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 2px; border-left-color: blue; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; "><div class="mcnt" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(51, 102, 102); "><span style="font-family: Verdana; ">Hi Heather...<br><br>I believe that FM's default DITA support doesn't respond to editing the image attributes directly (might work with some of them). Select the anchored frame and choose Special > Anchored Frame, then select the desired alignment. This will set the frame alignment and *should* set the alignment attribute as well. There are a number of other properties/attributes that work this way as well. In general, it's set up to use the "GUI" property setting options rather than setting things via attributes.<br><br>You should be able set the default value in the EDD and the r/w rules, and it should honor that when inserting the image. If it doesn't, that's definitely a bug.<br><br>BTW .. DITA-FMx does these things properly. :o<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>...scott<br><br><br></span><div class="mcntmoz-cite-prefix">On 6/11/13 12:19 PM, Heather Thomas wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="mcntmcnt">Thank you, Nadine and Scott, for your replies.<br><br>Nadine: I am using FM 11 (sorry I didn't specify in my first post). Yes, I want to change the default alignment of images. I did change the default setting in the EDD and then import the element definitions into my template. I know that the EDD was imported because when I set choices vs. string, I could see the choices in the Attributes pod. What I'm asking is why FrameMaker is ignoring the default of left that I set and leaving it as <no value>, but instead is making it center aligned when I save. What's especially mysterious is that it actually says at the bottom of the Attributes pod "align Type: Optional Choice Default: left" but doesn't use that default value.<br><br>Scott: Thanks for your suggestion to "use the default image properties dialog. Don't try setting the element attribute." I happily excused your unexpected brevity because you sent your message from your phone. :) Perhaps sometime when you are at your computer, could you please elaborate on this? I can't find the dialog you mentioned, and if this is actually a bug that I can't set the element attribute using my EDD, then I would like to report it. I have read your response on the following Adobe forum post:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="mcntmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://forums.adobe.com/message/3681019" target="_blank">http://forums.adobe.com/message/3681019</a>. Like the original poster there, the Anchored Frame dialog works properly for me. Manually setting the attribute to left does what I would expect as well. I have also ensured that I have the following in my rules:<br><em>attribute "align" {</em><p><em> is fm attribute "align";</em></p><p><em> is fm property alignment;</em></p><p><em> value "left" is fm property value align left;</em></p>Like I said before, it's not critical or anything, but it would be nice if we could set the default alignment in the EDD and have FM obey it.<br><br>Thanks again!<br>Heather<br><br>PS - Please note that there is a delay of at least 24 hours from the time I post to the time my message appears on the list.<br></div></blockquote><br></div></blockquote></div>_______________________________________________<br><br><br>You are currently subscribed to framers as<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:matt@mattrsullivan.com">matt@mattrsullivan.com</a>.<br><br>Send list messages to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a>.<br><br>To unsubscribe send a blank email to<br><a href="mailto:framers-unsubscribe@lists.frameusers.com">framers-unsubscribe@lists.frameusers.com</a><br>or visit<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.com">http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.com</a><br><br>Send administrative questions to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:listadmin@frameusers.com">listadmin@frameusers.com</a>. 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