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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>But Matt's has two points that I think are completely valid.<br><br>1) The licensing model for Creative Suite does not apply to FrameMaker (yet?) so the discussion is either moot or off-topic for this list (or both).<br><br>2) Nothing new is being said. All of the posters on this topic are simply restating what they have said several times before. We get it. You don't like the pay-as-you-go licensing model and won't buy into it if and when FrameMaker converts to that kind of plan, so at some point after that you'll stop using FrameMaker for anything. <br><br>I'm sure Adobe is aware that they will lose some percentage of their users if they convert their licensing model, but I'm sure they also believe that they will *gain* some new users who will be happy to license their products for a few months to see whether they work well for their purposes at a cost of a couple hundred dollars rather than having to fork out a kilobuck or more up-front. <br><br>-Fred Ridder<br><br><div>> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:14:40 -0700<br>> From: generic668@yahoo.ca<br>> Subject: Re: OT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)<br>> To: matt@mattrsullivan.com; Syed.Hosain@aeris.net; framers@lists.frameusers.com<br>> <br>> And on the other side of the fence...<br>> <br>> I find it an interesting discussion. And I prefer to have it on this list since I don't participate in many other lists.<br>> <br>> Sorry, Matt, my vote is for keep it online.<br>> <br>> Nadine<br>> <br>> ><br>> >Bandwidth is measured also by the number of emails one can reasonably read (and respond to) in a given length of time.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >I can't be the only person who is tired of reading about reactions to the CS licensing model on this FrameMaker forum…<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >I don't know anything about Adobe's plans.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >Everyone's time is worth (and costs) something…the time required to participate and/or read these discussions thus have a cost, so I'm asking... perhaps those with a keen interest in the topic could take the discussion of it offline or to a CS-oriented list until Adobe indicates this will affect FrameMaker? <br>> ><br>> ><br>> >I'm happy to discuss this off-list, but as a courtesy, will be avoiding this thread (even more) going forward.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >-Matt<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >On Jul 17, 2013, at 11:49 PM, "Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain@aeris.net)" <Syed.Hosain@aeris.net> wrote:<br>> ><br>> >In this day and age, is Internet “bandwidth” use for text e-mails really an issue? J<br>> >> <br>> >>Plus, are you saying that you know/believe that FrameMaker is not going to be released as a cloud-based license model soon? Love to hear the news.<br>> >> <br>> >>And, in my opinion, btw, my discussion (feel free to call it whining perhaps? :)) on license cost/models of FrameMaker is fair game for this mailing list …<br>> >> <br>> >>Z<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> <br>> You are currently subscribed to framers as DocuDoc@hotmail.com.<br>> <br>> Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.<br>> <br>> To unsubscribe send a blank email to<br>> framers-unsubscribe@lists.frameusers.com<br>> or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com<br>> <br>> Send administrative questions to listadmin@frameusers.com. Visit<br>> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.<br></div> </div></body>
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