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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Garima, <br>when I do File > Save as PDF in FrameMaker11, I first get a dialog to choose file name and destination, then I get a “PDF Setup for Selected File” dialog.<br>The first tab of this is labelled “Settings” and has a panel on it with just two radio buttons, only labelled “RGB” and “CMYK”, no explanation.<br>Is this what you mean by “</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Uncheck the option for ‘Convert CMYK colors to RGB’” ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=647 style='width:485.25pt'><tr><td width=220 style='width:165.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Regards,<br><br><b>David </b></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Invensys Andale","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Garima Kamthan [mailto:gkamthan@adobe.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> 31 July 2013 11:14<br><b>To:</b> Richard Doll<br><b>Cc:</b> deb.altman@anixter.com; info@mikewickham.com; Davis, David; Kunal Saini; Vikram Verma; Kapil Verma<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: A Pantone colour definition question<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Hi Richard,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>To retain CMYK colors in PDF, you can do the following:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;text-autospace:none'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Modify a job option to change color setting to ‘leave color unchanged’. Steps are:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Select: File->print setup. The printer selected should be ‘Adobe PDF’.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Click on properties. click ‘Edit’ for any job option(which is to be used to generate PDF) in Default settings. Go to ‘color’ tab. In ‘color management policies’ change option to “Leave color unchanged.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;text-autospace:none'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Do ‘Save as PDF’:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>In PDF job options, select the job option created in step1<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Uncheck the option for ‘Convert CMYK colors to RGB’<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Would suggest you to use the above settings for getting CMYK colors in PDF.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>In case you are just interested in retaining CMYK colors for ‘TIF’ images, then you can use the flag ‘ConvertGraphicsToEPS’.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Open maker.ini file present in $FmHome directory. Mark "ConvertGraphicsToEPS" as On. Restart Framemaker. Now, even if "Convert CMYK colors to RGB" option is checked in PDF set dialog, graphics(jpeg, psd, tiff) will retain CMYK colors.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Hope this helps.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Garima<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Kapil Verma <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:24 AM<br><b>To:</b> Richard Doll; Garima Kamthan<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:deb.altman@anixter.com">deb.altman@anixter.com</a>; <a href="mailto:info@mikewickham.com">info@mikewickham.com</a>; Davis, David; Kunal Saini; Vikram Verma<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: A Pantone colour definition question<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Richard,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks for your note. My colleague Garima will get back to you on this question.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IN'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IN'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IN'>Kapil Verma<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#943634;mso-fareast-language:EN-IN'>Sr. Product Manager – Adobe Technical Communications Products<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#943634;mso-fareast-language:EN-IN'>O: +91-120-2444711 x 34505<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US 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eSeminars</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#0033CC'><a href="http://tv.adobe.com/channel/technical-communication/"><span style='color:#0033CC'>Technical Communication CHANNEL on Adobe TV</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#0033CC'><a href="http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=tcs%5Faberdeen%5Fwhitepaper"><span style='color:#0033CC'>Technical Communication Whitepapers</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#0033CC'><a href="https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=framemaker%5Fdita%5Fwhitepaper"><span style='color:#0033CC'>FrameMaker Whitepapers</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#0033CC'><a href="https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=robohelp%5Fwhitepaper"><span style='color:#0033CC'>RoboHelp Whitepapers</span></a></span></i><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#943634;mso-fareast-language:EN-IN'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Richard Doll [<a href="mailto:sgmlindy@tds.net">mailto:sgmlindy@tds.net</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> Kapil Verma<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:deb.altman@anixter.com">deb.altman@anixter.com</a>; <a href="mailto:info@mikewickham.com">info@mikewickham.com</a>; Davis, David<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: A Pantone colour definition question<br><b>Importance:</b> High<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>-----------------------------------------------</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Kapil Verma<br>Sr. Product Manager - Adobe Technical Communications Products<br>O: +91-120-2444711 x 34505<br>Technical Communication Suite I FrameMaker I RoboHelp I FrameMaker Publishing Server I RoboHelp Server<br>------------------------------------------------</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Kapil,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>As a FrameMaker-10 (structured) and Acrobat-Pro-10 of the TCS-package user, <br>compiling 3k catalog pages/yr having approx. 3.25 CMYK-defined images per page and <br>about 20 CMYK-defined in FrameMaker colors (as a company-standards for part-numbers/section bleed-tabs/etc.) . . . </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Images are provided as PDF-(for full-page) and TIF (for single-column) all having colors defined in CMYK.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Please define exactly WHAT options are required to guarantee rendering the exact CMYK of the "input" and <br>HOW/WHERE in FrameMaker and/or Acrobat-Pro to set them.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>at your decision . . . reference to product "help" or "how-to" data at Adobe web-site is appreciated.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>In earlier Frame/Acrobat versions, I had script-converted all TIFs to EPS via Photoshop, to prevent Windows of its RGB perversion.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thanks for your valued response.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Richard Doll</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>graphic communications llc</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:sgmlindy@tds.net">sgmlindy@tds.net</a></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>1-317-539-4857</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>frame user since ver. 4</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:info@mikewickham.com" title="info@mikewickham.com">Mike Wickham</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com" title="framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:52 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re: A Pantone colour definition question<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>If you include the graphic as an EPS file, it gets passed around the Windows GDI. So Windows won't RGBify it and will leave CMYK and Pantone intact.<br><br>Mike Wickham<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>On 7/29/2013 6:32 AM, Davis, David wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>(Mind you, if I specify it as a CMYK, it’s almost certainly going to RGB-ify it? Or has Frame11 stopped all that nonsense? I’ve read much wailing and gnashing of teeth about this online….)</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Regards,</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>_______________________________________________<br><br><br>You are currently subscribed to framers as <a href="mailto:sgmlindy@tds.net">sgmlindy@tds.net</a>.<br><br>Send list messages to <a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a>.<br><br>To unsubscribe send a blank email to<br><a href="mailto:framers-unsubscribe@lists.frameusers.com">framers-unsubscribe@lists.frameusers.com</a><br>or visit <a href="http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sgmlindy%40tds.net">http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sgmlindy%40tds.net</a><br><br>Send administrative questions to <a href="mailto:listadmin@frameusers.com">listadmin@frameusers.com</a>. 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