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The arrangement of the .fm files is the same as arrangement of the .pdf files is to be.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This is the first time in _years_ that I’ve needed to do this, so it’s mighty perplexing. I, too, customarily print large books including tables of contents and indices and such. Those files are in only one folder, and I use <b>File > Single File</b>. Everything works great.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>But not with the source and output files in different folders . . ..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dave Stamm<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Information Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.™<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fort Wayne, Indiana 46804-1552; US<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>tel: 260-434-9620 fax: 260.434.9501 / 9509<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>dave.stamm@gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This message and / or attachments may include information subject to GDC4S S.P. 1.8.6 and GD Corporate Policy 07-105 and are intended to be accessed only by authorized recipients. 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If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the original message.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Gail Bergan [mailto:gail.bergan@bergan.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> 2013-08-26-Monday 11:25<br><b>To:</b> Stamm, David-P45904<br><b>Cc:</b> <info@heiko-haida.de>; <framers@lists.frameusers.com>; <frame2acrobat@yahoogroups.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [f2a] RE: Hypertext links not working<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Dave,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Is your begin_here.pdf being written to the same watched folder? I use a similar setup when producing my larger books (a Start.pdf file that has a large TOC that links to the individual "chapter" files). But I must write ALL files at once, including Start, hyperlinked Index, and individual chapters, from the book file so that relative links are not broken. When I test them in the Out folder, everything works, and then I can move them en masse to wherever the final files will reside. If I try to write the Start file by itself, then the Index by itself, or the chapters, I find I have broken links.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I hope I understood your problem correctly and this helps.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Gail<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>---------<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>---------<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Gail R. Bergan, President<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bergan et al., Inc.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>413 So. Church St.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Rockport, TX 78382<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>361-727-2343 <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.bergan.com">www.bergan.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/gail-bergan/30/aa6/391">www.linkedin.com/pub/gail-bergan/30/aa6/391</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Aug 26, 2013, at 6:50 AM, <<a href="mailto:dave.stamm@gdc4s.com">dave.stamm@gdc4s.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div id=ygrp-mlmsg><div id=ygrp-msg><div id=ygrp-text><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>2013-08-26-01T12:50Z <br><br><br><br>Tino – <br><br><br><br>Thanks for your time, interest, and effort. Unfortunately, I failed to include in my original posting that I must produce _separate_ .pdf files. So, I still have the problem. <br><br><br><br>After I print the book to separate files, I check a link while all the files are in [WatchedFolder] \ out. The links work great. Unfortunately, after I move “BEGIN_HERE.pdf” into its place and the other files into their place, the links don’t work. <br><br><br><br>Please note that I’m posting this to the Frame-to-Acrobat list, too. <br><br><br><br>Regards, <br><br>Dave Stamm <br><br>Information Engineer <br><br><br><br>From: Heiko Haida [mailto:<a href="mailto:info%40heiko-haida.de">info@heiko-haida.de</a>] <br>Sent: 2013-08-23-Friday 11:31 <br>To: Stamm, David-P45904; Framers <br>Subject: Re: Hypertext links not working <br><br><br><br>Hi Dave, <br><br>I just set up some files according to your description, with hyperlinks from each "target"-file to the others and back to the BEGIN_HERE.fm. <br><br>Well, I could see no problems within the files or in the pdf... <br><br>(My files are mainly local, but I also copied the folder to an external drive for the test.) <br><br>Just to make sure: <br><br>If "TargetA" is one example for a named hyperlink-destination in file "targetA.fm" (and so on...), and "BEGIN" is the named destination in the file "BEGIN_HERE.fm", the link options look like this: <br><br>Link from BEGIN_HERE.fm to the other files: gotolink ABC_DEF/targetA.fm:TargetA (...and so forth for B, C, and D) <br><br>Link from targetA.fm to targetB.fm: gotolink targetB.fm:TargetB <br><br>Link from targetA.fm back to BEGIN_HERE.fm: gotolink ..//BEGIN_HERE.fm:BEGIN <br><br>I am enclosing my PDF, if you don't mind. <br><br>Good luck... <br><br>Tino H. Haida. Berlin <br><br><br><br><br><br><a href="mailto:Dave.Stamm%40gdc4s.com">Dave.Stamm@gdc4s.com</a>: <br><br>2013-08-22-04T20:00Z <br><br>Windows 7 Enterprise Service Pack 1 <br>4 GB RAM <br>64-bit operating system <br>FrameMaker 11.0.2.384 <br>FrameMaker installed on workstation <br>Folder and all files on a server on the local area network in accordance with corporate policy <br><br>I am unable to consistently encode hypertext links among five files in one unstructured book. <br><br>Here's how the files are arranged: <br><br>NOTE: The .book file and all the target files are "children" of folder \Abc_Def. File BEGIN_HERE.fm is "sibling" of folder \Abc_Def and is to contain links to all four targets. <br><br>Folder \Abc_Def <br>File dir_Abc_Def.book <br>File targetA.fm <br>File targetB.fm <br>File targetC.fm <br>File targetD.fm <br>File BEGIN_HERE.fm <br><br>I moved File BEGIN_HERE.fm out of folder \Abc_Def because a recipient of the informational product (portable document format files) wants it that way. I am using a character tag to constrain both the newlinks and gotolinks to small amounts of text. Before I moved file BEGIN_HERE.fm out of folder \Abc_Def, crossreferences among all files worked flawlessly. <br><br>My latest attempt has been to specify named destinations (for example, newlink dir_About.fm) and jumps to named destinations (for example, gotolink dir_About.fm). <br><br>In the source .fm files, these jumps work only a small part of the time. 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