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I have several frame docs with landscape master pages, and I don't
have to rotate the pages to edit the text. (I'm assuming you want
the text to run along the long edge of the paper?) What I do:<br>
<br>
1. Add a new master page<br>
2. Use Format > Customize Layout > Rotate Page {clockwise or
counter-clockwise}<br>
3. Add the text frames.<br>
<br>
The main frame should be left as is, the header and footer frames
should be rotated.<br>
<br>
You can then apply this master page like any other.<br>
<br>
The one trick is that for some reason, Frame leaves the original
portrait text frame on the page even after the master page has been
applied. You have to fiddle around to select it and delete it and
make sure your text goes into the landscape text frame. (If both
frames are the same size, it's hard to tell which is which, which is
why I said "fiddle") If you apply the landscape master page to
multiple existing pages, you'll have to do that to all of them. If
you are adding new content, you just have to do it to the first; new
pages will use the correct text frame.<br>
<br>
I've got Framemaker 9 but I've done this since Frame 5.<br>
<br>
If I've misunderstood your problem, sorry.<br>
<br>
Anne<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/16/2013 8:40 AM, Fei Min Lorente
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks
for the advice, everyone, but with the help of Klaus
Mueller, I got the shortcut keys I’m looking for. Here’s a
copy of part of the email he sent me:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:14.2pt;text-indent:-14.2pt;mso-list:l2
level1 lfo1">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#00A886"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">■<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Generally,
you can find the default shortcuts for FM commands in the
config
<br>
files "\fminit\configui\cmds.cfg" or
"\fminit\configui\wincmds.cfg".<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="Body"
style="margin-left:14.2pt;text-align:justify;text-indent:-14.2pt;mso-list:l1
level1 lfo2">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#00A886"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">■<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">The
shortcuts for those 2 commands are (in English FM versions):
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="Body"
style="margin-left:28.4pt;text-align:justify;text-indent:-14.2pt;mso-list:l1
level2 lfo2">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">–<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext">Graphics:<br>
• Rotate 90 Degrees Clockwise: Esc g+<br>
• Rotate 90 Degrees Counterclockwise: Esc g-<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-left:28.4pt;text-align:justify;text-indent:-14.2pt;mso-list:l1
level2 lfo2">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">–<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Page:<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext">•
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Rotate
Page Clockwise: Esc pO<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext">•
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Rotate
Page Counterclockwise: Esc po</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">He’s
got a FrameScript script called “Report Commands” that
generates a list of shortcut definitions for whatever
FrameMaker you have installed, so if you have custom ones,
it’ll list those, too.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
tried the rotate page ones and they work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Fei
Min<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Heiko Haida [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:info@heiko-haida.de">mailto:info@heiko-haida.de</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Fei Min Lorente; Framers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Shortcut keys for rotate
clockwise/counter-clockwise<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Hello
Fei Min,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">you
are probably right with presuming that there is no way to
apply the "rotate page" command to more that just the actual
page.<br>
I could not find any hint about this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Of
course you could: Remap the command to a different, shorter
shortcut. Or: Add the command to a menu.<br>
All this would not solve your problem, I think.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">a)<br>
One way would be to write a short program (e.g. with
framescript or with Extendscript) that lets you enter the
relevant pages and either rotates them this way or back.<br>
(Unfortunately I am no help in writing this tool.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">b)<br>
I thing the best approach is to work with a rotated master
page, as was already mentioned:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">You
should define one new master page with landscape orientation
and a main text frame in it in the appropriate size, in a
comfortable view for editing. It is not necessary to add
headers and footers unless these were also continuous
textflows. Nor is it necessary to create different left and
right pages, as you would only use the page temporariliy.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">As
you are obviously working with structured applications, this
new page should be applied to your template, so that it
becomes available in each document that you generate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">This
done, you can apply the master page to the page range where
the index is located with a single command (in the master
page menu). Then you would edit the content. The you would
reapply the master pages that are intended to be used here.
Probably you have to distinguish between right and left
pages, so this time you would need two actions to get back
to the original format.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">And
thats it...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">c)<br>
Other solutions are: <br>
-- You could use a screen that can be rotated... I have one,
but with a configuration like this (screen rotated, content
editable but not *really* rotated), it takes some skill to
move the cursor, either with a mouse or with the arrow
keys...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">--
Or you could use the landscape orientation page as a
<strong><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">standard</span></strong>
for your index pages and not the 8x11 inch portrait master
pages.
<br>
Depending on what the purpose is, you may then e.g. simply
rotate the pages in the final PDF as the very last step.
This would also be helpful for reviewing the content
meanwhile in the PDF. In Acrobat, the rotation is only one
single command for a page range.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Best
regards -<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Tino
H. Haida, Berlin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Fei
Min Lorente:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre>Oh, I see the confusion. Okay, I have an 8.5 x 11 book, so all the pages are the same size. For this appendix, the first couple of pages and the last page are normal portrait. The tables in between these pages are rotated so that the top is always at the left and the bottom is always at the right, but the header and footer are still at the top and bottom edges (short sides of the page). The master pages are applied by a structured master page map which triggers on an attribute value.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>If there is a quick, easily reversible way to rotate all the pages so I can edit them, then rotate them all back, I'd be okay with that too. They are contiguous. But I tried selecting all the pages and it only lets me highlight one at a time. Maybe messing with the master page is the best option?<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Fei Min<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>From: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:robert.lauriston@gmail.com">robert.lauriston@gmail.com</a> [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:robert.lauriston@gmail.com">robert.lauriston@gmail.com</a>] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 4:32 PM<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>To: Fei Min Lorente; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Subject: Re: Shortcut keys for rotate clockwise/counter-clockwise<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Maybe I don't understand what you're trying to do. I thought you meant landscape pages.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Fei Min Lorente <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:FeiMin.Lorente@onsemi.com">FeiMin.Lorente@onsemi.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre>
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did. So they're showing up sideways, but I can't edit
them that way. Do you mean unrotate the master pages and
apply them temporarily so I can edit? Fei Min
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clockwise/counter-clockwise Instead of manually rotating
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