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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Hi Michael,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>My comment was made as an observation, not necessarily an endorsement. I really like FrameMaker's "hybrid" approach: you can have structure (XML) and WSIWYG at the same time. Also, FrameMaker's EDD model for context-sensitive formatting of structured is brilliant.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I also like the "print-engine" model: author and edit in any XML tool you want and use FrameMaker (or InDesign) as a rendering engine for your high-quality print and PDF output.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Rick<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Norton<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 30, 2013 7:26 AM<br><b>To:</b> framers@lists.frameusers.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: So Long and Thanks for the Fish<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Rick Quatro wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>“Mike's comment is interesting light of the fact that many people are moving away from WSIWYG "in this century." The whole XML-authoring world, with DITA, S1000D, DocBook, etc., is a move away from WSIWYG authoring tools. Increasingly, authoring content is being separated from rendering it for output (for example, with applications like Flare). In a sense, we are going full circle back to the division of labor that existing in the typesetting era. That is why there may be a revival in the LaTex world: it has always separated authoring and rendering.”<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>As someone who started out in the days of WordPerfect 1.0 (for DG) and mark-up languages. The thought of going back to that environment seems strange. I too have been disappointed with Frame’s progress under Adobe’s tutelage, but I’d still rather use it than any other tool out there. Flare is an interesting option though and I hope to hear the reasons why that move was made. At a previous gig, we adopted Flare as our HAT and looked into moving to it completely. The PDF publishing capabilities we wanted were not there at that time and there were some issues with bugs. Perhaps that has improved now. If I remember correctly, Flare wasn’t exactly cheap either.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>The ability to format the text I’m working with and merge pictures I can see and annotate into it has never hindered my ability to write. Layout and design are part of the message I am trying to deliver. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>