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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#993366">Hi Anita,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#993366">Thank you very much for this description. I also encounter</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#993366">this crash now and then. Next time I will test your solution.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#993366"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#993366">You say that FrameMaker did not know how to interpret</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#993366">an end of flow symbol in a hidden cell. However, if I do not</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#993366">apply any condition to text in table rows which are hidden,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#993366">then I _<i>always</i>_ have this end of flow symbol.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#993366"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#993366">When I send FrameMaker files to translation, translation memory</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#993366">systems import and present text in hidden table rows. Therefore</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#993366">I apply a condition not only to a table row but also to the text in</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#993366">the table row.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#993366">Best regards</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#993366">Winfried</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:windowtext"> framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Gutierrez, Anita<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 14, 2014 7:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> framers@lists.frameusers.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> SOLVED! Was RE: Changing conditional text settings crashes Frame</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Thanks to everyone who jumped in to help. Besides fixing my file, I learned a ton!
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">The problem turned out to be caused by a table whose conditional text settings were “funny” (Gary’s word). Meaning:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">• </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">The table anchor was unconditional.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">• Several table rows had a condition applied.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">• Some
<i>text</i> inside conditional table cells also had the same condition as the row applied. However, the end-of-flow symbols in some of these dual-condition cells were unconditional. (Don’t ask why I set the table up this way. It made sense at the time.)
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">It seems that Frame didn’t know what to do with an end-of-cell symbol that has no cell in which to live—as happened when I hid the condition.
That’s actually kind of reasonable, although Frame could handle it more gracefully than crashing. (Apparently this has been a known bug at least since version 7. Adobe folks?)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">When I cleaned up the table to use conditions only on text (not table rows or cells), everything worked fine.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Also, thanks to Stuart for pointing me to the MIF Reference. The MIF equivalent of “don’t Show Condition Indicators” is this line in the Document
statement.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:8.0pt; font-family:Courier; color:windowtext"><DDisplayOverrides No></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Not the most intuitive term for it, but there you have it.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Thanks all!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Anita</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:windowtext"> Stuart Rogers [<a href="mailto:srogers@phoenix-geophysics.com">mailto:srogers@phoenix-geophysics.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 13, 2014 11:19 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gutierrez, Anita; <a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Changing conditional text settings crashes Frame</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On 2014-Jan-13 1:24 PM, Gutierrez, Anita wrote:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Hi Framers,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">(Anyone know the MIF equivalent of “don’t Show Condition Indicators”? I searched for “cond” and “condition” and didn’t find anything recognizable as such.)</span></p>
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Search for "indicators" in: <a href="http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/9.0/MIF_Reference/MIF_Reference.pdf">
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/9.0/MIF_Reference/MIF_Reference.pdf</a></span></p>
<pre><span lang="EN-US">-- </span></pre>
<pre><span lang="EN-US">Stuart Rogers</span></pre>
<pre><span lang="EN-US">Technical Communicator</span></pre>
<pre><span lang="EN-US">Phoenix Geophysics Limited</span></pre>
<pre><span lang="EN-US">3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3</span></pre>
<pre><span lang="EN-US">Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5</span></pre>
<pre><span lang="EN-US">+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325</span></pre>
<pre><span lang="EN-US"> </span></pre>
<pre><span lang="EN-US"><a href="http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com">http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com</a></span></pre>
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