<div dir="ltr">Scott,<div><br></div><div>The parenthesis support in conditional build expressions is added in FM 12. </div><div><br></div><div>Below is some more content about Conditional Text from the FM 12 What's New.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Hope this helps.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Gyanesh</div><div><br><div id="WS2d2a17056e219198-6f9f61cd14359063f8d-7ff4" class="" style="font-size:10.909090995788574px;line-height:16.500001907348633px;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif,SimSun-18030">
<h3 class="" style="font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:19.80000114440918px;margin:18px 0px 10px;padding:0px">Conditional Tags pod</h3><div style="font-size:11px;margin:0px;padding:0px"><p style="font-size:11px;margin:0px 0px 8px;padding:0px">
The new Conditional Tags pod makes it easier for you to create and manage conditional text settings by providing an improved and unified interface. You can conveniently create, edit, and delete conditional tags, apply and show/hide conditional tags, and search for various attributes (for example, tag name, styles, or color).</p>
<p style="font-size:11px;margin:0px 0px 8px;padding:0px">See the video: <a href="http://www.adobe.com/go/learn_fm12_conditionaltextpod_en" target="_self" style="font-size:11px;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,125,216)">Conditional Tags Pod</a>.</p>
<p style="font-size:11px;margin:0px 0px 8px;padding:0px">For more information, see <a href="http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WS2CD82D77-9A48-441b-A3E0-E652D9DAD24B.html" style="font-size:11px;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,125,216)">Conditional Tags pod</a>, <a href="http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WS9e6b3bea246b852026d9bd02142a2d35781-8000.html" style="font-size:11px;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,125,216)">States of conditional tags</a>, and <a href="http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WS9e6b584b121581dd-341711cc1429f4588a0-8000.html" style="font-size:11px;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,125,216)">Automatic validation and visual cues in the conditional expressions</a>.</p>
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<a name="WS2d2a17056e219198-6f9f61cd14359063f8d-7ff3" style="font-size:11px"></a><h3 class="" style="font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:19.80000114440918px;margin:18px 0px 10px;padding:0px">Building complex conditional expressions with parenthesis support and UI guides</h3>
<div style="font-size:11px;margin:0px;padding:0px"><p style="font-size:11px;margin:0px 0px 8px;padding:0px">FrameMaker now allows you to use parentheses in Boolean condition expressions. This makes it easy to create complex conditional expressions.</p>
<p style="font-size:11px;margin:0px 0px 8px;padding:0px">FrameMaker also automatically validates the conditional expressions as you are building them. The Expression Builder UI highlights errors and provides you visual cues to identify the various relevant parts, such as conditional tag names and operators, in the build expressions.</p>
<p style="font-size:11px;margin:0px 0px 8px;padding:0px">See the video: <a href="http://www.adobe.com/go/learn_fm12_simplifiedconditionalexpression_en" target="_self" style="font-size:11px;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,125,216)">Simplified Conditional Expressions</a>.</p>
<p style="font-size:11px;margin:0px 0px 8px;padding:0px">For more information, see <a href="http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WS3ec8f313bbebcd5e-4a6a385c1429f2b27e7-8000.html" style="font-size:11px;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,125,216)">Boolean expressions with parenthesis</a> and <a href="http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WS9e6b584b121581dd-341711cc1429f4588a0-8000.html" style="font-size:11px;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,125,216)">Automatic validation and visual cues in the conditional expressions</a>.</p>
</div></div></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Rahul Dhaundiyal <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rahuldh@adobe.com" target="_blank">rahuldh@adobe.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com" target="_blank">framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>rebecca officer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 11, 2014 6:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Scott Prentice; 'Framers'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Conditional build expressions?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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>>> Scott Prentice <<a href="mailto:sp10@leximation.com" target="_blank">sp10@leximation.com</a>> 11/03/14 07:27 >>><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Hi...<br>
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This is a stretch .. but if anyone knows it'll be someone on this list. I'm looking for information on the differences between the basic functionality of the conditional build expressions in FM from FM8 to FM12.<br>
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>From the UI functionality perspective, it looks like FM8 and FM9 are the same, then in FM10 a "label" was added so you could give your build expression a name. FM10 and FM11 look the same, and in FM12 they added a "()" button to allow for grouping.<br>
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The docs are woefully lacking on details.<br>
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Was the basic functionality and syntax the same from FM8 to FM11? Is the "()" (grouping) feature actually new in FM12 or was that allowed previously, but you just had to know to type it? I must admit that I've never really used this feature, but would like
to leverage it in a plugin, so need to know which aspects are new and which have been there since FM8.<br>
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Any tidbits of info are appreciated.<br>
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Thanks!<br>
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