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<p>Hi Stephen,</p>
<p>well, I have been working for translation companies for more than 15 years (DTP). There are two ways to handle this:</p>
<p>a) mif files are supplied for translation, mif files are returned (no dtp involved). This is best if you can handle all dtp yourself.<br />It is necessary to know which mif version (which FM version) is used, that is most important.</p>
<p>b) Frame files are supplied and a dtp step is involved for preparation. <br />In this case, it is preferable to have all details about the layout and design rules communicated. Fonts should be supplied, graphics should be supplied (they might also contain text btw). <br />If you want to get the translations back fully layouted (or get PDFs ready to publish), you should make sure that your source files are accurate in the way the layouts are set and formats and typography are used, so that no one has to guess what was originally intended.</p>
<p>As you can see, b) may need a lot of communication, preparation and data transfer in both directions. It may of course be useful, but it only makes sense if there is a certain (recurring) amount of text to be translated, or if languages are involved where you can not provide the proper typesetting yourself.</p>
<p>Regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin</p>
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<p>Craig, Alison:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36.0pt;"><span style="mso-ansi-language: FR-CA;">Hi,<!-- o ignored --></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36.0pt;"><span style="mso-ansi-language: FR-CA;">I have a book of 40 files, graphics imported by reference; no text insets.<!-- o ignored --></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36.0pt;"><span style="mso-ansi-language: FR-CA;">The translation company want me to provide files in MIF format. I am surprised that Trados does not accept the files in .FM format. Is this normal?<!-- o ignored --></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36.0pt;"><span style="mso-ansi-language: FR-CA;">I have never created MIF files before. At least, it seems like a long manual process. Is there a plug-in that does a complete book? I imagine the graphic files remain linked by reference.<!-- o ignored --></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36.0pt;"><span style="mso-ansi-language: FR-CA;">Any comments are much appreciated. BTW, we plan to upgrade to FM 12 very soon. Would that help (not have to convert to MIF?).<!-- o ignored --></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36.0pt;"><span style="mso-ansi-language: FR-CA;">Have a good day,<!-- o ignored --></span></p>
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