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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Mike Wickham said:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>… </span>Helvetica from your computer-- or replace it with the OpenType version.<br><br><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I am curious as to how to get hold of [newer] OTF versions of Helvetica (and some other old Adobe fonts that I use – like Caslon Expert) without having to pay an arm and a leg for it. As I recall, these fonts (with all variants) are <i>darn</i> expensive. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>My current Helvetica font files are ancient Type 1 ones – I received the standard “35 PostScript” Adobe fonts as part of two Adobe PostScript Cartridge purchases I made for my equally ancient and long-dead HP LaserJet II laser printer and other font purchases way back when. For example, The date on these Helvetica files are from around 1990 and 1994, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>So, they don’t have all glyphs for today’s needs for some people. Luckily, this has not hurt me too much, primarily because I have not had a need for Unicode (yet) and have a substitution in another font for the Euro glyph, but …<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I don’t know if Helvetica has changed since that time, but I assume – perhaps incorrectly – that new glyphs have been added and/or any imperfections have been fixed, etc. (?) Because I do see newer releases of some Adobe other fonts included in their software … with different files sizes, internal font versions, etc. Some recent Acrobat Pro versions in particular.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Anyway, some time back, I commented/asked here about Adobe providing font upgrades (with reasonable prices), and somebody from Adobe mentioned that they don’t do that. Unfortunate! </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>L</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I think that it is good for Adobe to (a) consider doing font upgrades for people who have these fonts – particular the ancient Type 1 files and/or (b) for the FrameMaker or Acrobat team to consider adding in the “traditional” 35 fonts (in updated OTF form, of course!) from the Apple LaserWriter days, as part of a standard font set for FrameMaker/Acrobat.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Z<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>