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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>You can sometimes tell from the PDF properties … I always find it interesting when I see stuff that tells me that people don’t trust their own [editing and other] tools! </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>But in this case, the meta-data for Using-FrameMaker-12.pdf says it was created by “Application: FrameMaker 12.0.3” using “Acrobat Distiller 11.0 (Windows)”.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Z<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Fred Ridder<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> Craig Ede; framers@lists.frameusers.com<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: why view on phone WAS: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I'm curious about one thing (well, more than just one; but one thing in the current context...): <br>Has Adobe ever actually said that they use FrameMaker produce the FrameMaker documentation? <br><br>I know that Microsoft has never made any such statement about the MS Word documentation, and for years there have been two persistent rumors about this; one is that they use a proprietary in-house tool or system, and another is that they use FrameMaker. <br><br>-FR<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>