<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1419004348452_6792" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1419004348452_6793">FM12 ships with the User Guide in a chm. Complete User Guide. At least my FM12 did.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1419004348452_6810" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1419004348452_6809">Since then I have downloaded the PDF of the same version as well as the "new and updated (ya, right)" version.</span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Friday, December 19, 2014 10:27 AM, Mike Wickham <info@mikewickham.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container">Klaus, I got manuals with 7.0 and 7.1. They appear to be identical 7.0 <br>manuals. I did not buy 7.2, so don't know on that one. 8.0 definitely <br>did not come with a manual, nor any of the versions since.<br><br>Mike Wickham<br><br>On 12/19/2014 3:16 AM, Klaus Daube wrote:<br>> Can somebody please refresh my memory?<br>><br>> In <a href="http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker69.html" target="_blank">http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker69.html </a>I say:<br>> «<br>> Getting Started guides: At least since FM-8 these guides have disappeared. It's my<br>> impession that newcomers are not considered a relevant group of users by Adobe.<br>><br>> User Guides: Until FM ??? you got a thick manual. Starting with FM-??? the box only<br>> contains a DVD with the program and help files have been dislocated from your PC to<br>> the web. The manual from FrameTechnology for FM-5 was 5cm thick (due to the chaper-<br>> page numbering the number of pages is difficult to get). Adobes manual for FM-7 has<br>> 660 pages. Obviously some information must have been streamlined - or left out. Some<br>> special information in separate online-manuals (e.g. concerning asian languages or<br>> customisation of FM) has not been put forwared to newer versions of FM.<br>> »<br>><br>> What number I have to put in place of the ???<br>> Are my statements in error generally?<br>><br>> Thanks<br>> Klaus Daube<br>><br>><br>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br>> Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich<br>> Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper<br>> F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: <a href="mailto:ddd@daube.ch" ymailto="mailto:ddd@daube.ch">ddd@daube.ch</a> W: www.daube.ch<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>><br>><br>> You are currently subscribed to framers as <a href="mailto:info@mikewickham.com." ymailto="mailto:info@mikewickham.com.">info@mikewickham.com.</a><br>><br>> Send list messages to <a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com." ymailto="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com.">framers@lists.frameusers.com.</a><br>><br>> To unsubscribe send a blank email to<br>> <a href="mailto:framers-unsubscribe@lists.frameusers.com" ymailto="mailto:framers-unsubscribe@lists.frameusers.com">framers-unsubscribe@lists.frameusers.com</a><br>> or visit <a href="http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/info%40mikewickham.com" target="_blank">http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/info%40mikewickham.com</a><br>><br>> Send administrative questions to <a href="mailto:listadmin@frameusers.com." ymailto="mailto:listadmin@frameusers.com.">listadmin@frameusers.com.</a> Visit<br>> <a href="http://www.frameusers.com/" target="_blank">http://www.frameusers.com/ </a>for more resources and info.<br>><br>><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br><br><br>You are currently subscribed to framers as <a href="mailto:dspreadb@yahoo.com." ymailto="mailto:dspreadb@yahoo.com.">dspreadb@yahoo.com.</a><br><br>Send list messages to <a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com." ymailto="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com.">framers@lists.frameusers.com.</a><br><br>To unsubscribe send a blank email to<br><a href="mailto:framers-unsubscribe@lists.frameusers.com" ymailto="mailto:framers-unsubscribe@lists.frameusers.com">framers-unsubscribe@lists.frameusers.com</a><br>or visit <a href="http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com" target="_blank">http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com</a><br><br>Send administrative questions to <a href="mailto:listadmin@frameusers.com." ymailto="mailto:listadmin@frameusers.com.">listadmin@frameusers.com.</a> Visit<br><a href="http://www.frameusers.com/" target="_blank">http://www.frameusers.com/ </a>for more resources and info.<br><br></div> </div> </div> </div> </div></body></html>