<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi all,<br><br></div>I worked with Box a lot yesterday (that's the "cloud-based storage" I mentioned), and with some experimentation and testing aid from two of the designers I support, I figured out how to do Shared Reviews with Box as a WebDAV server. <br><br></div>I have to say, I was almost unreasonably excited when we got it to work.<br><br></div>I'm trying to generalize what we worked out so I can update this thread with the solution if anyone is interested, but that may take a few days. <br><br></div>Thanks to all who supplied suggestions and information. This list rocks.<br><div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Zimmerman, Gary <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Gary.Zimmerman@teradata.com" target="_blank">Gary.Zimmerman@teradata.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:maroon">When you do a server-based shared review, each reviewer's comments
are actually stored separate from the review PDF, in separate XML files that are somehow linked to the PDF document.<span>
</span>That’s why you can have multiple reviewers reviewing and marking up the document at the same time.<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:maroon">If you use the option to save an "archive" copy of the file, the
comments existing at the moment are all "flattened" into the PDF file that is saved, as regular PDF-based comments and markup.<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:maroon">Not sure how that's handled with email-distributed review copies
going to reviewers who don't have access to the server where all the XML files are stored.<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com" target="_blank">framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Heiko Haida<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 26, 2015 2:25 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Fred Ridder<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com" target="_blank">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Acrobat X: Manually sending a Shared Review<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Hi Fred,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">I was also thinking of the fact that Acrobat will use a PDF file with some modifications, like the comment function readied for Adobe Reader, not the original file.<br>
(This is a useful service and you would have to keep this in mind if your doing it without Acrobat.)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">But you are right, of course it is possible to share the file and start a review-cycle the old-fashioned way, only -- probably -- this will not be so "effortless".<br>
To me, the server-based workflow seems to be better suited for a quick and efficient review than the email-based workflow.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">I don't think that's entirely true, Tino.<br>
You can still do a email-based PDF review with an unsupported mail system, but it's not automatic and it probably won't be integrated back to the FrameMaker source (I don't know about this last because I've never tried it).<br>
The process involves exporting the comments from the PDF that each reviewer sends and then importing those comments into the master review PDF. Look in the Options menu for the Comments List section of the Comments tool palette (or whatevertheheck Adobe calls
it...) for the "Export All as Data File" and "Import Data File" commands.<br>
Not ideal, but it works, particularly if you keep the master file up to date and in a shared location, and all the reviewers are good about grabbing the latest copy of the master file before starting to add their own comments.<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:info@heiko-haida.de" target="_blank">info@heiko-haida.de</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:ljsims.ml@gmail.com" target="_blank">ljsims.ml@gmail.com</a>; <a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com" target="_blank">
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Subject: Re: Acrobat X: Manually sending a Shared Review<br>
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Hi Lin,<br>
if Acrobat does not recognize the email client (like when a web-based email is used), you cannot send the file specially prepared for the review, which means that you cannot use the email review process at all (as far as I understand it).
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You would not be able to store your PDF file in the specific format that is necessary for the workflow; e.g. to collect all comments in one final version at the end of one review cycle, Acrobat has to recognize the files as "original" or "commented" versions
of one review process. (...I guess.)<br>
There are two other options for a workflow which is not email-based but server-based:<br>
1) A server-path is available for all reviewers (could be WebDAV)<br>
2) <a href="http://acrobat.com" target="_blank">acrobat.com</a> could be used as a "server" (Adobe ID required for setup)<br>
In both cases the reviewers would either work with the server copy, or work with local copies, where each comment is automatically transfered to the server copy. This way, all comments are visible immediately for all reviewers and can also be answered, which
can be very useful (connection to server-path/internet must be available to "publish" the comments). This way, the comments do not have to be re-imported into the original version from all the different commented files.<br>
Best regards - Tino H. Haida. Berlin<br>
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Lin Sims:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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you manually send invitations, but I've not been able to find actual instructions for how to do that. The situation is complicated by the fact that I am using WebDAV and a cloud storage service for collecting the review comments.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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