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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font face="Verdana">If these files
        started off as XML or structured files, and the others didn't,
        there could definitely be some extra cruft in there. You
        probably checked this already, but are these files still structured?<br>
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        I haven't noticed any significant size difference in PDFs from
        XML from FM11 to FM12. I just did a quick test of a single page
        .. when saved to PDF from FM11 it's 63KB and from FM12 it's 69
        KB .. over 100 pages that might be a difference of 60KB. Not a
        big difference from my perspective.<br>
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        Doing a similar test with an unstructured file, the FM11 PDF is
        34 KB and the FM12 PDF is 40KB.<br>
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        The structured/XML sourced file actually has less content than
        the unstructured file, and the resulting PDF is larger .. so
        it's possible that your PDFs that come from XML may be larger.
        And there does seem to be an increase in size (from both
        structured and unstructured) in PDFs from FM11 to FM12.<br>
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        You might check to see if your files are still structured ..
        removing the structure (if that's the intent) might reduce the
        file size. Also, since these files came through a different
        path, they may have additional content/graphics/?? on reference
        pages which could increase the file size.<br>
        <br>
        Cheers,<br>
        ...scott<br>
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      On 2/17/15 9:50 AM, Lin Sims wrote:<br>
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        <div>After a bit of testing, the increase seems to be linked to
          3 files that were created using DITAFMx from a batch of xml
          files that were generated by script from an Excel workbook.
          Interestingly, these files have always been part of the
          document (and inserted in the same way), so I'm not sure why
          there's a sudden file size increase.<br>
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        I'll be regenerating these files again soon, so I'll see if the
        increase continues. It's still odd.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:39 PM, David
          Spreadbury <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:dspreadb@yahoo.com" target="_blank">dspreadb@yahoo.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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                <div dir="ltr"><span>Lin,</span></div>
                <div dir="ltr"><span>I just tested your issue opening
                    a 12 page text only structured FM7.2 file and saving
                    it as FM12.</span></div>
                <div dir="ltr"><span>Did nothing more than open the
                    FM7.2 in FM12</span> and then save it as a FM12
                  document.</div>
                <div dir="ltr">Printed FM12 version using Acro XI Adobe
                  PDF driver.</div>
                <div dir="ltr">Distilled postscript to PDF.</div>
                <div dir="ltr">FM7.2 file size=358KB Acro 8 PDF=207KB</div>
                <div dir="ltr">FM12 file size=8630KB Acro XI PDF=278KB</div>
                <div dir="ltr">This was one chapter of a 30+ chapter
                  book.</div>
                <div dir="ltr">The Acro8 PDF of the book is 3025KB.</div>
                <div dir="ltr">I can open and update all the chapters,
                  but with only 70KB increase in one chapter, I would
                  expect a slight increase in the book, but nothing like
                  you are experiencing.</div>
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                <div dir="ltr">Dave</div>
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                      <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> On Tuesday,
                          February 17, 2015 11:18 AM, Lin Sims <<a
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                                  <div>The PDF has to be posted as a
                                    shared review on a cloud web storage
                                    site. There's a size limit to what
                                    you can upload. My company is using
                                    corporate GMAIL and I have a 30Gb
                                    limit on storage, and for now I have
                                    to attach a shared review enabled
                                    PDF to an email to allow reviewers
                                    to join the review*. Admittedly,
                                    this one file isn't going to break
                                    either of those limits, but it's not
                                    something I can keep doing for a
                                    long period of time. Plus the sudden
                                    increase in size worries me. If
                                    there's a problem with the files, I
                                    need to find it before things get
                                    hosed (and yes, I did run all the
                                    files through a MIF wash).<br
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                                  *I will be testing setting up a shared
                                  review by storing the shared review
                                  PDF on the cloud drive and sending a
                                  link instead, but until I do, I know
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                                    <div>On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:04
                                      PM, Fred Ridder <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                                          <div dir="ltr">Not to minimize
                                            your question, but...<br
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                                            With the cost of computer
                                            storage running about $0.10
                                            per gigabyte for hard disk
                                            or $0.50 per gigabyte for
                                            SSD, I'm not sure it's
                                            worthwhile worrying about 10
                                            MB more or less. That's less
                                            than 1/2 cent's worth of
                                            storage space. Unless you
                                            know your documents are
                                            going to be posted on a
                                            website where a significant
                                            number of users do not have
                                            anything resembling
                                            broadband access, spending
                                            more than a few seconds
                                            worrying about 10 MB in file
                                            size does not yield a good
                                            return on investment.<br
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                                              <hr>Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015
                                              11:26:35 -0500<br
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                                              Subject: FM12: PDF file
                                              size exploding<br
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                                              From: <a
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                                              To: <a
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                                                href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com"
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                                                      <div>Has anyone
                                                        had an issue
                                                        with the size of
                                                        a generated PDF
                                                        increasing
                                                        dramatically
                                                        after moving a
                                                        book from FM10
                                                        to FM12 (or any
                                                        earlier version
                                                        of FM to FM12)?<br
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                                                        I've got a book
                                                        that's gone from
                                                        under 3M to over
                                                        12M, and that's
                                                        AFTER running
                                                        the Save as
                                                        Reduced Size.<br
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                                                      Is this a bug,
                                                      have I not set
                                                      something up in
                                                      either FM12 or
                                                      Acrobat 10
                                                      correctly, or is
                                                      there a solution?<br
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                                                    Thanks,<br
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