Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)

[Scott Prentice]

Can you tell me which other plugins you've got installed? I'd like to 
try to resolve any conflicts.

You can .. carefully .. delete elements from the EDD (just be sure to 
delete them from the general rules as well). It's best to clone the 
default structure applications and make your tweaks there. If you do 
trim down the data model, be aware that if you try to open other DITA 
files that have the elements you've removed from your EDD, you'll run 
into trouble.

Rather than deleting elements, you might want to look into specializing 
the topic (or other topic-based container .. concept, task, reference) 
into a "topic" that only makes use of the elements that you want to use. 
This will keep things completely DITA-compliant.

You may already have things set up this way, but just in case .. it's 
good practice to only allow the valid elements to be visible in the 
Element Catalog. To do this choose the Options button at the bottom of 
the Element Catalog window, and select the first option ("Valid elements 
for working start to finish"). This will keep the list of available 
elements to a minimum.

...scott


Gyanesh Talwar wrote:
> It worked! I can create CHM and HTML now.
>
> Just implemented the same things on a fresh machine.
>
> I tried the tutorial example, as well as created a new DITAMAP.
>
> On my machine, it's probably conflicting with other DLLs, as I have
> other plug-ins installed.
>
> My next worry: the number of elements in DITA are too many. Can I just
> go and delete un-necessary elements?
>
> Regards,
> Gyanesh
>
>
> On 6/7/07, Gyanesh Talwar <gyanesh.talwar at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks again Scott!
>>
>> Yes, I've installed OT (properly or not-don't know) and sundry other
>> components... Apache... JDK .. Java Help etc and have made the changes
>> in system variables.
>>
>> Apart from this, the files we need to copy in various locations...
>> DLLs ...ant sctips.. project.xml etc... and yes, Dita Options are
>> pointing to the right locations.
>>
>> When I start Frame, I get the message that two of the (OT related)
>> components are loaded.
>>
>> I am trying to generate output from the "ditafm.ditamap" file...
>> haven't created my own yet. The problem is if I have nothing open...
>> and just select "Generate Output" then also it crashes!
>>
>> Anyway, as I mentioned... I am doing it all over again on my
>> colleagues PC. Hoping it will work this time.
>>
>> Thanks for your patience! :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Gyanesh
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/7/07, Scott Prentice <sp at leximation.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Gyanesh...
>> >
>> > Sorry .. I misunderstood which function you were using. I thought you
>> > were using the "Build FM book from ditamap" (yeah, I know you clearly
>> > said the "Generate Output" command). What happens if you save the map
>> > before running the Generate Output command? It only asks to save if 
>> the
>> > file was unsaved. Also, you can say "No" to the "OK to save" dialog ..
>> > try that as well. feel free to send me your files .. it's possible 
>> that
>> > there's something in your ditamap that the system doesn't like.
>> >
>> > Something else to check .. In the DITA Options dialog, do you have the
>> > Topic, Map, and Book structure application assigned properly to the
>> > corresponding options? When you start Frame, do you get any 
>> messages in
>> > the console window?
>> >
>> > Many people are successfully generating HTML and CHM output through 
>> the
>> > App Pack .. however, this requires that you have the DITA Open Toolkit
>> > installed properly as well (this is no small task). All the Generate
>> > Output command does is pass some parameters off to the OT, there is no
>> > CHM or HTML output processing provided with the App Pack.
>> >
>> > You may want to sign up for the framemaker-dita Yahoo group
>> > (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/framemaker-dita/), since that's 
>> the
>> > forum where these things are discussed more regularly.
>> >
>> > ...scott
>> >
>> > Scott Prentice
>> > Leximation, Inc.
>> > www.leximation.com
>> > +1.415.485.1892
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Gyanesh Talwar wrote:
>> > > Hey Scott.. thanks again.
>> > >
>> > > And sorry, I didn't see your earlier message earlier.
>> > >
>> > > But, I am afraid, the patch hasn't solved my problem. I just have to
>> > > say "Generate Output" and I hear that loud thud... everytime!
>> > >
>> > > I am trying to implement DITA on my colleagues machine.
>> > >
>> > > But guys, is there's anyone out there who has worked with DITA
>> > > application pack successfully to generate CHMs or HTML? I am asking
>> > > because I shared this problem with someone in the Frame development
>> > > team... and the response wasn't very encouraging. This person just
>> > > asked me to go for the 8 beta, as it has integrated DITA support...
>> > > one doesn't need to grapple with the Application pack.
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Gyanesh
>> > >
>> > > On 6/5/07, Scott Prentice <sp at leximation.com> wrote:
>> > >> Hi Gyanesh...
>> > >>
>> > >>  I responded to your last posting, but just in case you didn't 
>> get it ..
>> > >> you should install the latest FM update (7.2p158). I have seen 
>> some odd
>> > >> problems with the version you're using.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> 
>> http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22&platform=Windows 
>>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> ...scott
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Gyanesh Talwar wrote:
>> > >> > Hi All,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Sorry for cross posting... but this is urgent... so I am cross 
>> posting
>> > >> > this to Framers as well as the DITA+Frame yahoogroup.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > 7.2b144
>> > >> > OT 1.2.2
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I have setup DITA and am trying to generate output from the 
>> "test"
>> > >> > example, as explained in Adobe's "Using the DITA OT with Frame
>> > >> > Application Pack for DITA" PDF.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > However, as soon as I say Generate Output, Frame asks to save the
>> > >> > Ditamap file and Crashes … citing "7204, 6109890, and 7778516, 
>> 0."
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I even tried reallocating more space to my C to provide Frame 
>> more
>> > >> > room, but it did not help.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Anyone else also encountered this? Will uninstalling 
>> Framescript and
>> > >> > other plugins help?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Thanks in Advance,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Gyanesh
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> -- 
>>  Gyanesh Talwar
>> |~~^~~^~~~^~~^~~|
>>    "Bunbu Itchi"
>> |~~^~~^~~~^~~^~~|
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