Table Cell Alignment

Lin Surasky Lin.Surasky at retalix.com
Wed Sep 12 15:23:55 PDT 2007


Nope, no Word weirdness. I created the table from scratch in Frame.
There must be a setting someplace that I'm missing.... 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docudoc at hotmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:21 PM
> To: Lin Surasky
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Table Cell Alignment
> 
> Well, unless Adobe broke something in FM7.2, I think there is 
> something peculiar going on with your document.
> 
> I have FM7.1 on my Windows XP laptop, and constructed a test 
> table similar to what you have described. It works perfectly.
> All asterisks are (almost) centered both horizontally and 
> vertically, and move up or down as the number of lines in the 
> description column contract or expand.
> 
> Was the original table imported from Word, by any chance? If 
> so, you might want to try converting the table to text and 
> then back to a table, then re-tagging the cells, all of which 
> *should* get rid of any lingering Word weirdness.
> 
> -Fred Ridder
> 
> >From: "Lin Surasky" <Lin.Surasky at retalix.com>
> >To: "Stuart Rogers" <srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com>
> >CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> >Subject: RE: Table Cell Alignment
> >Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:03:20 -0500
> >
> >Hi, Stuart-
> >
> >You know, I realized this after I sent the message off. But I 
> >substituted Xs for the asterisks and it doesn't change things. The 
> >Xs/asterisks are literally touching the top rule of the table cell.
> >
> >The anchored frame idea is a good way to work around it, although if 
> >there's a setting I'm missing, I'd prefer to fix it...
> >
> >Thanks!
> >Lin
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:00 PM
> > > To: Lin Surasky
> > > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > > Subject: Re: Table Cell Alignment
> > >
> > > Lin Surasky wrote:
> > > > Hi all-
> > > >
> > > > Is there a known issue with vertical alignment in table
> > > cells (FM 7.2
> > > > on Windows XP, unstructured)?
> > > >
> > > > I don't use tables very often, but I have a small one that
> > > has a few
> > > > narrow columns that contain asterisks to indicate whether a
> > > condition
> > > > is met, and one column of text that describes the 
> solution based 
> > > > on where the asterisks fall.
> > > >
> > > > I want the asterisks to be centered in the table cell, so I
> > > assigned
> > > > them all a paragraph tag that defines both their horizontal and 
> > > > vertical alignment as centered.
> > > >
> > > > What I'm getting is top alignment for the first row (below
> > > the header
> > > > row and the only single-line row in the table), center
> > > alignment for
> > > > the third row, which is the tallest row, and 
> > > > top-to-center-well-I-guess-it's-close-enough alignment for
> > > the rest of
> > > > the rows.
> > > >
> > > > The default table cell margins are all even (4.0 pt), and
> > > there are no
> > > > format overrides, either at the paragraph level or at the
> > > table format
> > > > level (as far as I can tell...).
> > > >
> > > > What else should I be looking at?
> > >
> > > Lin,
> > >
> > > I think what you're seeing is just the fact the an 
> asterisk is (in 
> > > most
> > > fonts) located at the top of the cap height or the 
> ascender height, 
> > > in other words, not vertically centred within its own character 
> > > space.
> > >
> > > The asterisk *looks* centred in the tallest row only because your 
> > > eye can't judge precisely enough to see that it's 
> slightly too high; 
> > > in the shortest row, the difference is more obvious.
> > >
> > > You could centre an asterisk as a text line in a small anchored 
> > > frame (maybe tweaking the A-frame's Distance above 
> baseline), then 
> > > copy/paste into your cells.
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Stuart Rogers
> > > Technical Communicator
> > > Phoenix Geophysics Limited
> > > Toronto, ON, Canada
> > > +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
> > >
> > > srogers phoenix-geophysics com
> > >
> > > "It is not enough that I succeed.
> > >   Others must fail."
> > >
> > > -- Oscar Wilde
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