style following inset

[Arnett, Keith]

Hi Mollye,

 

Just catching up on my digest version, so pardon the late response. The
solution outlined by Richard Combs is an effective one, and there is
also one more alternative:

 

Create a new paragraph tag from your standard body paragraph tag and
name it, for example, "TI.Start." Configure it so that it has a 2 pt.
font size, and Above Pgf, Below Pgf, and Line Spacing are all set to 0
points. 

 

Ensure that every text inset begins with a TI.Start paragraph (with no
content, obviously). This does not remove the "empty paragraph" but sets
it to an empty, 2 pt paragraph with zero spacing, effectively removing
it from view.

 

This has the advantage of keeping the solution in the text inset itself,
and removes the need to remember to insert content after the text inset
- more of a "set and forget" solution. Of course, you have to remember
to keep it in the text inset, but if you create a text inset template,
you can set it up so it appears as the first line in the flow, followed
by a standard body paragraph tag. You only need to create the new
TI.Start tag in the text inset template - it does not have to become
part of your standard template. When you import the text inset, it will
show up in the style list as "*TI.Start."

 

Regards,

 

Keith Arnett

Lead Technical Writer 

Software AG USA, Inc. \ Fairfax VA

 

-----Original Message-----
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:30:28 -0700

From: "Combs, Richard" <richard.combs at Polycom.com>

Subject: RE: style following inset

To: <mollye at clearpath.cc>,    <framers at lists.frameusers.com>

 

Mollye Barrett wrote: 

 

>> I'm working with an unstructured document set that uses text 

>> insets. When insets are imported into the target document, 

>> the empty paragraph tag following the inset automatically 

>> becomes a repeat of the first style in the previous inset. 

>> So, if the inset starts with a numbered list, the next empty 

>> paragraph tag in the document becomes a number list too.

 

> That "empty" pgf isn't really empty. It's the _container_ pgf into
which

> you imported the text inset. If you click the inset to select it,
you'll

> see from the highlighting that it sits in that pgf. There's an _extra_

> pgf break because the text inset itself ends with a paragraph break.

> 

> Enough context. The fix is simple: Put something -- anything --
between

> the text inset and the end of its container pgf. 

> 

> For existing text insets, position the cursor between the the text
inset

> and the pilcrow (end-of-pgf symbol) of the container pgf and type

> something. I use a non-breaking space (Ctrl-Space) so that there's a

> little symbol there (I always work with View > Symbols on), and it's

> less likely to be accidentally deleted. Change the pgf format to

> whatever you want (I have a special format I use as a text inset

> container) and update the text inset. The container pgf remains

> unchanged. 

> 

> For a new text inset, if the text cursor is in an empty pgf when you

> import the inset, the inset will "sit" up against the pilcrow and
cause

> your problem. Type the Ctrl-Space first, then move the cursor to the

> left of it before importing the inset. Or consider importing the inset

> with the cursor at the beginning of a non-empty pgf (i.e., to the left

> of some text). 

> 

> HTH!

> Richard