weird symbols in front of my Chapter Titles

Wed Jul 2 13:13:29 PDT 2008

Thanks, Clint.

The outline box is a little box that is appearing before the first
letter of the text.  I tried to delete it and it moved to behind the
text.

Thank you for setting my mind at ease about these not affecting the
text.  I'm being asked to make changes to these documents and I'm
learning as I'm going, so I don't want to remove the one thing that
causes the whole document to crash.

Deirdre

On 7/2/08, Owen, Clint <Clint.Owen at craneaerospace.com> wrote:
> The extra markers won't hurt anything, like affecting the printed copy
> or some such. They don't take up any space in the line. When you go to
> add a new cross-reference they will show up as possible destinations you
> can choose from. The only way to get rid of them is to delete the
> containing paragraph.
>
> I am not sure what you mean by "outline boxes". Are these showing up in
> your output or moving other characters in the paragraph around? If so,
> they could be cross-references to empty paragraphs, or paragraphs with
> only "space" characters, or something like that.
>
> If you hold the "CTRL" and "ALT" keys and click on a cross-reference,
> you will be taken to the source of the reference, which might give you a
> clue as to its origin. This works in the TOC if you notice a typo and
> want to go directly to the source to fix it.
>
> Clint
>
>
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deirdre Reagan [mailto:deirdre.reagan at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 12:54 PM
> To: Owen, Clint
> Subject: Re: weird symbols in front of my Chapter Titles
>
> I did what Clive suggested, used the Marker menu item to identify the
> marker, and both the bold T (not upside down, but T) and the box are
> cross-references.
>
> One bold T marks a cross-reference to that chapter's old name (I renamed
> the chapter).
>
> The other bold T and all the outline boxes cross-reference a chapter I
> copied and renamed to create those chapters.
>
> Is this normal behavior and should I be worried?  Can I get rid of these
> markers?  They won't delete.  Do I want to get rid of them?  Do I want
> to keep them?
>
> Any advice would be much appreciated!
>
> Deirdre
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7/2/08, Deirdre Reagan <deirdre.reagan at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thank you Clint!
> >
> > On 7/2/08, Owen, Clint <Clint.Owen at craneaerospace.com> wrote:
> > > Were these templates imported from MS Word, by any chance? That can
> > > be the source of strange characters.
> > >
> > > As for the upside down "T", that can be any one of several different
>
> > > kinds of marker. If you have ever cross-referenced something to that
>
> > > paragraph the marker will remain, even if the referencing paragraph
> > > is deleted.
> > >
> > > Try this: go to Special >> Marker, then highlight the area of the
> > > paragraph where the "T" is. The Marker Text box will tell you what
> > > kind of marker it is.
> > >
> > > Clint
> > >
> > >
> > > Clinton Owen | Senior Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace &
> > > Electronics |
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> > > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Deirdre
> > > Reagan
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 12:31 PM
> > > To: Framer's List
> > > Subject: Re: weird symbols in front of my Chapter Titles
> > >
> > > And in my TOC, the Chapter Titles all have the outline box in front
> > > of them, and the second level headings all have the bold T in front
> > > of them.
> > >
> > > I thought the bold T meant cross-reference?  I still don't know what
>
> > > the outlined box means.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Deirdre
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/2/08, Deirdre Reagan <deirdre.reagan at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi all:
> > > >
> > > > I have nine Chapter Titles that feed the TOC.
> > > >
> > > > The format of the title is [Variable] [Chapter Title Name] and the
>
> > > > whole thing is tagged Chapter Title.
> > > >
> > > > Two chapter titles have a bold T in front of the variable.
> > > > Neither the variable nor the chapter title is cross-referenced in
> > > > the rest of the document, as far as I can tell.  One paragraph tag
>
> > > > has an asterisk
> > >
> > > > in front of it, but the other one doesn't.
> > > >
> > > > Three chapter titles have an outlined box in front of the
> > > > variable.  I
> > >
> > > > don't know what this outlined box is. None of these tags have an
> > > > asterisk.
> > > >
> > > > Four chapters have no symbols in front of the variable.
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts on why these seven chapters, which only feed the TOC,
>
> > > > would have different symbols or none at all in front of them?
> > > >
> > > > Also, I erased the variable and ran the book, and got no error
> > > > messages, but the symbols all remained the same.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Deirdre
> > > >
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