question about overrides

Peter Gold peter at knowhowpro.com
Fri Jun 27 08:18:38 PDT 2008


Overrides that are created during the final editing and layout pass,
to control page, frame, and column breaks, can be removed in one
action by using File > Import > Formats to import the file into
itself, and choosing to remove overrides. Of course only remove these
overrides from a copy of the saved edited file. This is easier than
creating new paragraph formats for each unique instance, then cleaning
up these unique fixes in preparing the material for the next revision.

HTH

Regards,

Peter
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On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Owen, Clint
<Clint.Owen at craneaerospace.com> wrote:
> Deirdre,
>
> In my opinion, Top of Page type overrides to force improved pagination
> much more acceptable than other types of formatting changes. One of the
> last steps in our process is to go through the document and check for
> awkward pagination. Then we move figures and tables around or force a
> heading to the next page to improve the look and flow. If something else
> changes, we just have to do it again. It just makes a better product.
>
> Clint
>
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Deirdre
> Reagan
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 7:42 AM
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> Subject: question about overrides
>
> Hi all, good morning.
>
> FM 8.0, XP.
>
> This is really a best practices question.
>
> A couple of weeks ago, there was a discussion about overrides, and how
> they should be used rarely or not at all.
>
> So I thought about that and started to watch our use of overrides.
>
> We use overrides all the time.  For instance, if a figure would be
> better placed at the top of the next page, we create that override (our
> figure tag is set at Anywhere).
>
> We also used Top of Page when we want to keep a paragraph from breaking
> over two pages.
>
> Is it really preferable to create a paragraph tag for each instance of
> formatting?  I'd end up a lot of one-time-use-only tags.
>
> Also, most of these overrides occur in the editing process, after the
> content has been established and we are focused on making the document
> look professional.  Should I be creating tags as I edit the document,
> rather than override the existing tag as I make layout decisions?
>
> A second question, now that I'm really thinking about this:
>
> I'm really bothered by the Top of Page as an override, because if we add
> text to the front end, that override is going to force a Top of Page we
> might not want.  But I haven't been able to find a "keep together"
> option, like Word has for keeping lines of text together.
> Next Pgf is similar, but it works differently in significant ways.
> You can't Next Pgf a single paragraph, for instance, but you can keep it
> whole without forcing it to the top of the next page in Word.
>
> Anyway, any comments and insight into the override / editor's role /
> tidying up the document / is there a "keep together" issue would be most
> welcome!
>



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