tbl from xml file
Nodea.Lopez at wartsila.com
Nodea.Lopez at wartsila.com
Wed Nov 5 19:20:11 PST 2008
Hi!
I've been thinking of a way on how to show/open a table as is in
Structured FrameMaker (v.8), while the table I mentioned is embedded in
an xml file. Could anyone help me please? :)
-nlopez
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3. Re: Sorting: Ignoring periods
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4. RE: Batch production of PDFs (Kelly McDaniel)
5. RE: Subject: creating a table with row headings instead of
columnheadings (Kelly McDaniel)
6. Re: Sorting: Ignoring periods (Peter Gold)
7. Re: Sorting: Ignoring periods (Rick Quatro)
8. PDF file-to-file cross references (Kelly McDaniel)
9. Re: Sorting: Ignoring periods (Shmuel Wolfson)
10. RE: Sorting: Ignoring periods (Fred Ridder)
11. RE: ?cran (Pinkham, Jim)
12. RE: Sorting: Ignoring periods
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13. RE: Search for random characters (Nancy Allison)
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15. RE: creating a table with row headings instead of column
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17. RE: Sorting: Ignoring periods (Robert Evans)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:27:23 +0100
From: "Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp" <wim at idtp.eu>
Subject: Subject: creating a table with row headings instead of column
headings
To: <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Cc: 'Ben Hechter' <bhechter at yahoo.com>
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Hi Ben,
To make a table with (repeating) row headers you can use a rotated
frame,
create table and rotate the text. In fact you turn the tabel (90
degrees)
and use rotated the text (-90 degrees) so the display will be 'normal'.
You could make a special master page with a rotated text frame to hold
the
table and maintain table continuation.
HTH
Vriendelijke groet,
Wim Hooghwinkel
Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker
iDTP
International DTP and Documentation Consultancy
tel. +31652036811
info at idtp.eu
www.idtp.eu
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 07:50:04 -0600
From: "Peter Gold" <peter at knowhowpro.com>
Subject: Re: Subject: creating a table with row headings instead of
column headings
To: "Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp" <wim at idtp.eu>
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com, Ben Hechter <bhechter at yahoo.com>
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Great solution, Wim!
________________
Regards,
Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:27 AM, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp <wim at idtp.eu>
wrote:
> Hi Ben,
>
> To make a table with (repeating) row headers you can use a rotated
frame,
> create table and rotate the text. In fact you turn the tabel (90
degrees)
> and use rotated the text (-90 degrees) so the display will be
'normal'.
> You could make a special master page with a rotated text frame to hold
the
> table and maintain table continuation.
>
> HTH
>
>
> Vriendelijke groet,
>
> Wim Hooghwinkel
>
> Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker
>
> iDTP
>
> International DTP and Documentation Consultancy
>
> tel. +31652036811
> info at idtp.eu
> www.idtp.eu
------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:03:34 -0500
From: "Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHAC"
<Darren.Butler.ctr at Robins.af.mil>
Subject: Re: Sorting: Ignoring periods
To: <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
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Fred Ridder wrote:
>>The cause is easy. Period follow spaces in the standard sort order.
Any entry that includes Heidi followed by a space will sort before an
entry that has Heidi followed by a period (or almost any other
punctuation character). The best fix for your situation is another
matter...<<
If changing the SortOrder or the IgnoreChars building blocks won't help,
does anybody have any ideas on what else I can do - even if it's not a
total fix - because I have a customer that's producing very large
indexes. Finding every out-of-order "Heidi" would be tedious and
eye-straining.
Thanx,
DJ
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From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docudoc at hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:33 PM
To: Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHAC
Subject: RE: Sorting: Ignoring periods
The cause is easy. Period follow spaces in the standard sort order.
Any entry that includes Heidi followed by a space will sort before an
entry that has Heidi followed by a period (or almost any other
punctuation character).
The best fix for your situation is another matter...
> Subject: Sorting: Ignoring periods
> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:43:32 -0400
> From: Darren.Butler.ctr at Robins.af.mil
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>
> Hello fellow FrameManiacs,
>
>
>
> In an index of paragraph titles;
>
>
>
> I WANT:
>
> Heidi.
>
> Heidi Chronicles.
>
> Heidi Fleiss.
>
> Heidi Ho.
>
> Heidi Klum.
>
>
>
> I GET:
>
> Heidi Chronicles.
>
> Heidi Fleiss.
>
> Heidi Ho.
>
> Heidi Klum.
>
> Heidi.
>
>
>
> Do I need to monkey with the SortOrder of the IgnoreChars?
>
>
>
> TIA,
>
> DJ
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 08:08:45 -0600
From: "Kelly McDaniel" <kmcdaniel at pavtech.com>
Subject: RE: Batch production of PDFs
To: "Jeremy H. Griffith" <jeremy at omsys.com>,
<framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Cc: Charles Johnston <cdfjohnston at gmail.com>
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"... free
utility around to send an email with an attachment from
the command line."
Blat http://www.blat.net/194/
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Griffith
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 2:53 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Charles Johnston
Subject: Re: Batch production of PDFs
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:05:52 +0100, "Charles Johnston"
<cdfjohnston at gmail.com> wrote:
>We translate our manuals to 26 languages, which will (we're not there
yet)
>give us a need to batch-convert a large number of Frame books to PDF,
after
>which they will be e-mailed to the translators for review - very
preferably
>automatically.
>
>ePublisher AutoMap can do this, of course. However, for this
>alone Quadralay's pricing is unrealistic.
>
>Can anyone recommend an alternative tool? Maybe just a plug-in to Frame
that
>supports batch PDF-generation of multiple books,
Sure, runfm does batch production, including of PDF and
print output. It's part of Mif2Go, but it's one of the
many freebies in it, since it works fully with the demo
version (with our blessings):
http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm
You do need to install the plugin DLLs, m*.dll, in your
\frame\fminit\plugins dir, because runfm uses them to
communicate with Frame. You also need to put runfm.exe
in your \windows\system32 dir, but you don't need to
install anything else. The documentation for runfm is
in Chapter 34, "Converting via runfm", of the User's
Guide, which is downloadable in a dozen formats on the
same page above.
>but the e-mail functionality would be very nice to have.
Note that since you normally invoke runfm from a .bat,
you can readily add any other system commands you please
to the process. I'd be surprised if there wasn't a free
utility around to send an email with an attachment from
the command line... ;-)
-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
<jeremy at omsys.com> http://www.omsys.com/
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 08:15:56 -0600
From: "Kelly McDaniel" <kmcdaniel at pavtech.com>
Subject: RE: Subject: creating a table with row headings instead of
columnheadings
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Briljant!
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Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 7:50 AM
To: Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
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Subject: Re: Subject: creating a table with row headings instead of
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Great solution, Wim!
________________
Regards,
Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:27 AM, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp <wim at idtp.eu>
wrote:
> Hi Ben,
>
> To make a table with (repeating) row headers you can use a rotated
frame,
> create table and rotate the text. In fact you turn the tabel (90
degrees)
> and use rotated the text (-90 degrees) so the display will be
'normal'.
> You could make a special master page with a rotated text frame to hold
the
> table and maintain table continuation.
>
> HTH
>
>
> Vriendelijke groet,
>
> Wim Hooghwinkel
>
> Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker
>
> iDTP
>
> International DTP and Documentation Consultancy
>
> tel. +31652036811
> info at idtp.eu
> www.idtp.eu
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 08:30:03 -0600
From: "Peter Gold" <peter at knowhowpro.com>
Subject: Re: Sorting: Ignoring periods
To: "Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHAC"
<Darren.Butler.ctr at robins.af.mil>
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
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Hi, Darren:
Have you tried specifying the sort order with square brackets in each
index marker? For example:
Heidi Chronicles.[Heidi Chronicles]
Heidi.[Heidi]
etc.
Markerworker is a free marker editing tool from cudspan. Search Google
for: markerworker cudspan
HTH
________________
Regards,
Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 8:03 AM, Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584
CBSS/GBHAC <Darren.Butler.ctr at robins.af.mil> wrote:
> Fred Ridder wrote:
>>>The cause is easy. Period follow spaces in the standard sort order.
> Any entry that includes Heidi followed by a space will sort before an
> entry that has Heidi followed by a period (or almost any other
> punctuation character). The best fix for your situation is another
> matter...<<
>
>
> If changing the SortOrder or the IgnoreChars building blocks won't
help,
> does anybody have any ideas on what else I can do - even if it's not a
> total fix - because I have a customer that's producing very large
> indexes. Finding every out-of-order "Heidi" would be tedious and
> eye-straining.
>
> Thanx,
> DJ
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docudoc at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:33 PM
> To: Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHAC
> Subject: RE: Sorting: Ignoring periods
>
> The cause is easy. Period follow spaces in the standard sort order.
> Any entry that includes Heidi followed by a space will sort before an
> entry that has Heidi followed by a period (or almost any other
> punctuation character).
>
> The best fix for your situation is another matter...
>
>
>
>> Subject: Sorting: Ignoring periods
>> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:43:32 -0400
>> From: Darren.Butler.ctr at Robins.af.mil
>> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>>
>> Hello fellow FrameManiacs,
>>
>>
>>
>> In an index of paragraph titles;
>>
>>
>>
>> I WANT:
>>
>> Heidi.
>>
>> Heidi Chronicles.
>>
>> Heidi Fleiss.
>>
>> Heidi Ho.
>>
>> Heidi Klum.
>>
>>
>>
>> I GET:
>>
>> Heidi Chronicles.
>>
>> Heidi Fleiss.
>>
>> Heidi Ho.
>>
>> Heidi Klum.
>>
>> Heidi.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do I need to monkey with the SortOrder of the IgnoreChars?
>>
>>
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> DJ
------------------------------
Message: 7
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:30:33 -0500
From: "Rick Quatro" <frameexpert at truevine.net>
Subject: Re: Sorting: Ignoring periods
To: "Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHAC"
<Darren.Butler.ctr at Robins.af.mil>,
<framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Message-ID: <2AF606CD916243FC8A2BFC2BB3E8E1DD at CARMENOFFICE>
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Hi Darren,
Instead of a list of paragraphs, you could use FrameScript to insert a
custom marker in each of these paragraphs. The custom marker would have
the
paragraph's text, but it would have the sort string in square brackets
without the period. The script could be run on the entire book, making
it
virtually automatic; or it could run automatically whenever you update
the
book and generate the index.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
> Fred Ridder wrote:
>>>The cause is easy. Period follow spaces in the standard sort order.
> Any entry that includes Heidi followed by a space will sort before an
> entry that has Heidi followed by a period (or almost any other
> punctuation character). The best fix for your situation is another
> matter...<<
>
>
> If changing the SortOrder or the IgnoreChars building blocks won't
help,
> does anybody have any ideas on what else I can do - even if it's not a
> total fix - because I have a customer that's producing very large
> indexes. Finding every out-of-order "Heidi" would be tedious and
> eye-straining.
>
> Thanx,
> DJ
------------------------------
Message: 8
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 08:35:16 -0600
From: "Kelly McDaniel" <kmcdaniel at pavtech.com>
Subject: PDF file-to-file cross references
To: <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
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FrameMaker 8
Win32 XP
Have 9 FM8 books.
Produce PDF only.
I want to create a cross-reference from a topic in one book to a topic
in another.
I have attempted to create xbook xrefs using HTTP directory level
indicators and failed.
It appears there is a requirement to use the full path in the xref.
Problem:
1. The install path is always different from my development path.
2. We offer the user an opportunity at install time to install the
application in a dir of their choice.
Solution:
Relative pathing or something I haven't yet tried.
Any ideas?...tnx, Kelly.
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:39:19 +0200
From: Shmuel Wolfson <shmuelw1 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Sorting: Ignoring periods
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com, "Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC
584
CBSS/GBHAC" <Darren.Butler.ctr at Robins.af.mil>
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Why don't you just replace the period with a tiny graphic that looks
like a period. You could put it on your reference page.
Not the cleanest solution, but it's original :)
--
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Rick Quatro wrote:
> Hi Darren,
>
> Instead of a list of paragraphs, you could use FrameScript to insert a
> custom marker in each of these paragraphs. The custom marker would
have the
> paragraph's text, but it would have the sort string in square brackets
> without the period. The script could be run on the entire book, making
it
> virtually automatic; or it could run automatically whenever you update
the
> book and generate the index.
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc
> 585-659-8267
> www.frameexpert.com
>
>
>> Fred Ridder wrote:
>>>> The cause is easy. Period follow spaces in the standard sort
order.
>> Any entry that includes Heidi followed by a space will sort before an
>> entry that has Heidi followed by a period (or almost any other
>> punctuation character). The best fix for your situation is another
>> matter...<<
>>
>>
>> If changing the SortOrder or the IgnoreChars building blocks won't
help,
>> does anybody have any ideas on what else I can do - even if it's not
a
>> total fix - because I have a customer that's producing very large
>> indexes. Finding every out-of-order "Heidi" would be tedious and
>> eye-straining.
>>
>> Thanx,
>> DJ
>
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:47:22 -0500
From: Fred Ridder <docudoc at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Sorting: Ignoring periods
To: "Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHAC"
<darren.butler.ctr at robins.af.mil>,
<framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Message-ID: <BLU141-W3118D60193DDC396B0FF43BA1D0 at phx.gbl>
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Darrenn Butler wrote:
> If changing the SortOrder or the IgnoreChars building blocks won't
help,
> does anybody have any ideas on what else I can do - even if it's not a
> total fix - because I have a customer that's producing very large
> indexes. Finding every out-of-order "Heidi" would be tedious and
> eye-straining.
I'm still not sure I understand why the index entries use a period in
the
first place. I have never seen an index that uses that punctuation
convention.
But assuming that the intent is that *every* index entry ends in a
period,
I would include it in the index specifications on the IX reference page
of
the index file rather than including it in each and every index entry
marker,
since a missing period in a marker (which can happen quite easily) would
result in a second, unpunctuated entry in the compiled index. Just go to
the IX reference page and find the SeparatorsIX paragraph. Add a period
(or whetever other character you want to use as an entry terminator)
at the very start of the paragraph, before the separator space. Then
regenerate the index.
-Fred Ridder
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:02:34 -0600
From: "Pinkham, Jim" <Jim.Pinkham at voith.com>
Subject: RE: ?cran
To: "Stephen O'Brien" <sobrien at innovmetric.com>,
<framers at frameusers.com>, <framers at omsys.com>
Message-ID:
<2BF7198089C96C438F66C74B3F43DD5E038BFE92 at apls0111.euro1.voith.net>
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Si Dell surveillent que vous avez est moins d'un an, vous devriez entrer
en contact avec le support technique ? Dell. Autrement, il est probable
que vous deviez acheter un nouveau moniteur. Bas? sur les informations
que vous nous avez fournies, il est difficile d'impliquer ce qu'il est
celui cause les corrections brunes sur votre ?cran. Il est tout ? fait
possible, cependant, que l'?cran est simplement utilis? dehors.
****I am doing my best with Babel Fish, Stephen. In English: "If the
Dell monitor that you have is less than one year old, you should contact
technical support at Dell. Otherwise, it is likely that you will have to
purchase a new monitor. Based upon the information that you have
provided to us, it is hard to infer what it is that is causing brown
patches on your screen. It is quite possible, however, that the screen
is simply worn out."
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Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 8:13 AM
To: framers at frameusers.com; framers at omsys.com
Subject: ?cran
Mon ?cran Dell comence ? ?tre fini - patches brunes ici et l?.
Stephen O'Brien
R?dacteur technique / Senior Technical Writer InnovMetric Logiciels inc.
/ InnovMetric Software Inc.
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:14:47 -0500
From: "Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHAC"
<Darren.Butler.ctr at Robins.af.mil>
Subject: RE: Sorting: Ignoring periods
To: "Fred Ridder" <docudoc at hotmail.com>,
<framers at lists.frameusers.com>
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Fred Ridder insisted: >> I'm still not sure I understand why the index
entries use a period in the
first place. I have never seen an index that uses that punctuation
convention.<<
*whap-to-da-forehead*
I failed to realized that the customer is not generating a true index
(IX) but an alpha list of paragraphs. That resulting list is named
"index" within the document. You'd think the *.APL file extension would
have given me a clue.. ;^)
Their template has both IX and APL entries in the ref page.
It's too late in the workflow to go back and add index markers in the
doc; so I guess they're stuck with hand-fixing the APL?
'Thanx Fred, I couldn't see the forest for the trees.
'Thanx also to Peter Gold. That was the right answer, I was asking the
wrong question.
'Thanx to "RickScript" Quatro. Where would I be without duct tape, the
kjv and FrameScript.
'3 style points to Shmuel Wolfson for originality.
Blessings,
DJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docudoc at hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:47 AM
To: Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHAC;
framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Sorting: Ignoring periods
Darrenn Butler wrote:
> If changing the SortOrder or the IgnoreChars building blocks won't
help,
> does anybody have any ideas on what else I can do - even if it's not a
> total fix - because I have a customer that's producing very large
> indexes. Finding every out-of-order "Heidi" would be tedious and
> eye-straining.
I'm still not sure I understand why the index entries use a period in
the
first place. I have never seen an index that uses that punctuation
convention.
But assuming that the intent is that *every* index entry ends in a
period,
I would include it in the index specifications on the IX reference page
of
the index file rather than including it in each and every index entry
marker,
since a missing period in a marker (which can happen quite easily) would
result in a second, unpunctuated entry in the compiled index. Just go to
the IX reference page and find the SeparatorsIX paragraph. Add a period
(or whetever other character you want to use as an entry terminator)
at the very start of the paragraph, before the separator space. Then
regenerate the index.
-Fred Ridder
------------------------------
Message: 13
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 07:58:45 -0600 (CST)
From: Nancy Allison <maker at verizon.net>
Subject: RE: Search for random characters
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID:
<29932325.1153811225720725027.JavaMail.javamailuser at localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Several people have suggested that I search for
\plogo.bmp
As I feared, this technique finds only this:
warning.bmp 6 \p
logo.bmp @ 1400 dpi 7 \p
note2.bmp @ 950 dpi 7 \p
(If you display your email in simple text, you can't see the letters I
have put in red.)
I have typed in the \p (return character), which of course does not
actually print on the page, so you will see what I mean.
I am trying to select
logo.bmp [whatever appears here] \p
Surely Frame enables us to do this! It is such a basic search function!
Thanks for the suggestions -- if you have any more, keep'em coming!
------------------------------
Message: 14
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:59:09 -0500
From: "Rick Quatro" <frameexpert at truevine.net>
Subject: Re: Search for random characters
To: "Nancy Allison" <maker at verizon.net>,
<framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Message-ID: <078F62D7A1FE4C8F804F83B9BF2099EF at CARMENOFFICE>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Hi Nancy,
FrameMaker is fairly limited in the wildcards it has for finding text.
To do
"regular expression" finds, you can use FrameScript, which is a
third-party
scripting environment for FrameMaker (http://www.framescript.com).
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
>
> Several people have suggested that I search for
>
> \plogo.bmp
>
> As I feared, this technique finds only this:
>
> warning.bmp 6 \p
> logo.bmp @ 1400 dpi 7 \p
> note2.bmp @ 950 dpi 7 \p
>
> (If you display your email in simple text, you can't see the letters I
> have put in red.)
>
> I have typed in the \p (return character), which of course does not
> actually print on the page, so you will see what I mean.
>
> I am trying to select
>
> logo.bmp [whatever appears here] \p
>
> Surely Frame enables us to do this! It is such a basic search
function!
>
> Thanks for the suggestions -- if you have any more, keep'em coming!
------------------------------
Message: 15
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:31:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Ben Hechter <bhechter at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: creating a table with row headings instead of column
headings
To: Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp <wim at idtp.eu>, Fred Ridder
<docudoc at hotmail.com>, Ann Zdunczyk <azdunczyk at triad.rr.com>
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID: <181487.97045.qm at web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Thanks, Wim, Fred and Ann.
This was mainly about being able to create a template table type with
column 1 automatically shaded for row headings (without having to use
custom shading overrides).
Believe that I now have a some alternatives for doing this.
Cheers,
Ben
Ben Hechter
bhechter at objectives.ca
www.semitake.com
--- On Mon, 11/3/08, Fred Ridder <docudoc at hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Fred Ridder <docudoc at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: creating a table with row headings instead of column
headings
To: bhechter at yahoo.com, framers at lists.frameusers.com
Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 4:09 AM
#yiv218472400 #yiv246875899 .hmmessage P
{
margin:0px;padding:0px;}
#yiv218472400 #yiv246875899 {
FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;}
Ben Hechter wrote:
?
> Seems simple enough but cannot find anything in Table Designer
> for creating a table with row headings instead of column headings
> (i.e. all the headings appear in column 1).
?
The only functional difference between a heading row and a body row
is that heading rows are repeated on any subsequent pages that?the
table extends onto. There is no corresponding need for row headings
to repeat, so there is no mechanism for marking a heading column
as being any differerent than a body column. Yes, the formatting
wants to be different, but that's just a matter of applying an
appropriate paragraph tag.
?
-Fred Ridder
?
------------------------------
Message: 16
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:48:47 -0500
From: Fred Ridder <docudoc at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: creating a table with row headings instead of column
headings
To: <bhechter at yahoo.com>, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp <wim at idtp.eu>, Ann
Zdunczyk <azdunczyk at triad.rr.com>
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID: <BLU141-W458CDB273479DE7A7F2248BA1D0 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Ben Hechter wrote:
> Thanks, Wim, Fred and Ann.
>
> This was mainly about being able to create a template
> table type with column 1 automatically shaded for row
> headings (without having to use custom shading overrides).
>
> Believe that I now have a some alternatives for doing this.
Ah, well, if that's all you are trying to accomplish, it's very easy.
Just use the Shading tab of the Table Designer. In the Body Shading
box, choose Shade By Columns, and set the first 1 column to the
shading you want and the Next 99 columns to no shading. Then
either define it as a new named format or click Update All to save
it as part of the current format's definition.
-Fred Ridder
------------------------------
Message: 17
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:56:24 -0000
From: "Robert Evans" <Robert.Evans at arc.com>
Subject: RE: Sorting: Ignoring periods
To: "Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHAC"
<Darren.Butler.ctr at Robins.af.mil>,
<framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Message-ID:
<7870B9B037E7F142854BBA86F8896CFA016834 at savm-exch03.arc.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi Darren,
I'm not sure if you've fixed your problem yet - I think I may not have
received all the posts, but, if you're working on an APL (and not an
IX), then all you need to do is add a space AND a period to your
IgnoreCharsAPL paragraph on the APL Reference page.
Once gotcha is that the space cannot go at the end of the paragraph. I
put "space" & "." at the start, and it sorted in the way you wanted.
Regards
Rob Evans
-----Original Message-----
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Butler,
Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHAC
Sent: 03 November 2008 17:15
To: Fred Ridder; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Sorting: Ignoring periods
Fred Ridder insisted: >> I'm still not sure I understand why the index
entries use a period in the
first place. I have never seen an index that uses that punctuation
convention.<<
*whap-to-da-forehead*
I failed to realized that the customer is not generating a true index
(IX) but an alpha list of paragraphs. That resulting list is named
"index" within the document. You'd think the *.APL file extension would
have given me a clue.. ;^)
Their template has both IX and APL entries in the ref page.
It's too late in the workflow to go back and add index markers in the
doc; so I guess they're stuck with hand-fixing the APL?
'Thanx Fred, I couldn't see the forest for the trees.
'Thanx also to Peter Gold. That was the right answer, I was asking the
wrong question.
'Thanx to "RickScript" Quatro. Where would I be without duct tape, the
kjv and FrameScript.
'3 style points to Shmuel Wolfson for originality.
Blessings,
DJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docudoc at hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:47 AM
To: Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHAC;
framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Sorting: Ignoring periods
Darrenn Butler wrote:
> If changing the SortOrder or the IgnoreChars building blocks won't
help,
> does anybody have any ideas on what else I can do - even if it's not a
> total fix - because I have a customer that's producing very large
> indexes. Finding every out-of-order "Heidi" would be tedious and
> eye-straining.
I'm still not sure I understand why the index entries use a period in
the
first place. I have never seen an index that uses that punctuation
convention.
But assuming that the intent is that *every* index entry ends in a
period,
I would include it in the index specifications on the IX reference page
of
the index file rather than including it in each and every index entry
marker,
since a missing period in a marker (which can happen quite easily) would
result in a second, unpunctuated entry in the compiled index. Just go to
the IX reference page and find the SeparatorsIX paragraph. Add a period
(or whetever other character you want to use as an entry terminator)
at the very start of the paragraph, before the separator space. Then
regenerate the index.
-Fred Ridder
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:15:34 -0800
From: Anne Urban <agu at pbspro.com>
Subject: Recommendation for PDF to HTML converter?
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hello framers,
Can anyone recommend a PDF to HTML converter?
I've tried pdftohtml from SourceForge, and I've
tried Adobe Acrobat 7 Standard on the Mac. That
one does a pretty good job, except that I get
bad bullets. Thanks.
Regards,
-Anne Urban
------------------------------
Message: 19
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:00:50 +0000
From: "Bodvar Bjorgvinsson" <bodvar at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Recommendation for PDF to HTML converter?
To: "Anne Urban" <agu at pbspro.com>
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID:
<6c5fb4010811031500r6c63905bh70082d03ceaa393 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
I don't know much about the Mac, but googling "pdf to html" "mac os x"
gives bout 24,300 results including some Mac forums where, I believe,
you get the best help.
Bodvar
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Anne Urban <agu at pbspro.com> wrote:
> Hello framers,
>
> Can anyone recommend a PDF to HTML converter?
> I've tried pdftohtml from SourceForge, and I've
> tried Adobe Acrobat 7 Standard on the Mac. That
> one does a pretty good job, except that I get
> bad bullets. Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> -Anne Urban
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------------------------------
Message: 20
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:15:22 -0800
From: "Robinson, Lee L CIV DLA J6UIB" <Lee.L.Robinson at dla.mil>
Subject: Framemaker 8.0
To: <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Message-ID:
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I build and maintain unstructured Framemaker books. With the
newly-installed 8.0, the pdf TOC member links don't work. I get the the
message "There was an error opening this document. The filename,
directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect." Can anyone help
me?
Thanks.
lee.l.robinson at dla.mil
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