text frame that isn't visible

[Art Campbell]

Deirdre,

First, the templates.... You can redesign the templates pretty easily
from FM Portrait pages and then just import the Reference Pages from
your existing doc. Which means you don't have to go on to the Ref
pages for anything, assuming everything there is working.

Tell us about the Illustration Pages. Is that a Master Page? Does it
have a text frame on it, or is it blank?

Art

Art Campbell
                          art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded grl." -- Richard Thompson
                                                      No disclaimers apply.
                                                               DoD 358



On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Deirdre Reagan
<deirdre.reagan at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Art:
>
> I hope someday soon to know enough to rewrite these templates!  I'd
> tackle it now, but the reference pages have me stumped.
>
> I have to add pages because there is only one illustration page in the
> template, and a lot of time our illustrations split over two - three
> pages.
>
> Is there another way to add pages?  Just keep hitting enter until a
> new page shows up? That gives me my connected page but goes against
> every thing I've ever learned about efficient report writing.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Deirdre
>
> On 10/20/08, Art Campbell <art.campbell at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Based on your questions, it sounds as if there's something or some
>> things wrong in your template. If I were you, I'd think about creating
>> a new, clean template and applying it to any of your files/books that
>> have the symptoms you're asking about. It sounds as if you're building
>> stuff on what amounts to a flawed foundation, which isn't good.
>>
>> * The "not visible" frame could be on a layer under another frame --
>> mostly likely the result of modifying master pages or adding frames
>> manually.
>>
>> * There isn't a program default setting for page connections; it's on
>> a file by file, or template basis. So disconnected pages aren't the
>> default setting, except in your particular files. Autoconnect -- a
>> checkbox on your Master Page's text frame property sheet -- is the
>> setting in all the Frame templates and in most cases should always be
>> on.
>>
>> * You should so rarely have to add a Disconnected page that you should
>> need to look up the procedure... For almost all books in all
>> situations, you want autoconnected pages.
>>
>> * Text frames cannot be nested. You may have a text frame that
>> contains an anchored frame, and _that_ may contain a text frame. Or
>> you may have text frames on different layers. But you don't have
>> nested ones.
>>
>> * The only reason that rows wouldn't be added to a table is if youv'e
>> broken the automatic flow connection. If it's turned on, the rows and
>> pages are added automatically.
>>
>> Art
>>
>> Art
>>
>>
>> Art Campbell
>>                          art.campbell at gmail.com
>>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
>> Vincent and a redheaded grl." -- Richard Thompson
>>                                                      No disclaimers apply.
>>                                                               DoD 358
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Deirdre Reagan
>> <deirdre.reagan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi all:
>> >
>> > FM 8.0, Windows XP.
>> >
>> > A specific question here, but feel free to philosophize about the
>> > nature of disconnected and connected pages in general.  I'm happy to
>> > learn.
>> >
>> > In my document, when I attempt to connect two text frames, I get a
>> > message that says "Ok to use a text frame that isn't visible?"
>> >
>> > SPECIFIC QUESTION(s)
>> >
>> > What does that message mean?
>> >
>> > GENERAL PHILOSOPHICAL MUSINGS
>> >
>> > How would I find a text frame that isn't visible?  Why would I ever
>> > use a text frame that isn't visible?
>> >
>> > Why does FM use disconnected pages as the default?
>> >
>> > How come sometimes when I add a disconnected page, one of my figures
>> > jumps to the end of the document and the table ends up split between
>> > two other figures?
>> >
>> > Can a text frame within a text frame be connected to the text frame
>> > it's within? (I'm using white text to force a TOC entry -- the text
>> > frame is usually on its own page, but not in this case, so I cut and
>> > pasted the text frame into another text frame -- I guess I could have
>> > just typed the white text into the existing text frame.  I didn't
>> > think of that until right now.  Anyhow, I'd still like to know.)
>> >
>> > How come sometimes when I add rows to my table, FM automatically adds
>> > a new page, but other times, the new rows disappear until I add a page
>> > and connect it to the table page?  Does it have anything to do with
>> > using Left / Right Master pages versus Custom Left and Custom Right
>> > master pages?
>> >
>> > I could go on, but I imagine you all have jobs you need to do.
>> >
>> > Sprightly yours,
>> >
>> > Deirdre
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