Times, Times Roman, Times New Roman, and changing printers, etc.

Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
Wed Sep 10 08:11:01 PDT 2008


The Xerox drive is probably PostScript compliant, the H-P, from your
description, is probably not. So far as I know. PS is still and extra
item on most H-P systems, which means that they use HPGL as the
default page description language.

Depending on your final output, many shops and users find that the
best setup is to standardize on the Adobe Acrobat PDF logical printer
as the system (of Frame -- there's a plug in that lets it be set to
default only within FM) default printer. Moving to the Adobe Acrobat
default is likely to solve your font problem too, because it is likely
to use the same fonts as the Xeros does.

Art

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Inbar, Paul <paul.inbar at intel.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Let me apologize for asking another font question. I have been looking
> at previous posts and articles on the web, but am still not sure I
> understand the issues and consequences.
>
> Basically, our frame templates use a font called Times for our regular
> Body paragraph tag.
>
> On our Xerox network printers, everything seems to be fine. However,
> they are going to be taken offline in a few weeks.
>
> Recently, a new HP network printer was installed. When I made the HP
> printer the default printer and opened up one of our documents, I got
> the "Document named aaa.fm uses unavailable fonts. To reformat using
> available fonts, click OK" message. I opened the doc. Times appeared
> checked but greyed out in the right-click context menu. I printed on the
> HP. The printout looks identical, as far as I can tell, to the same doc
> printed on the xerox. I saved and closed, when I opened again, I got the
> same unavailable fonts message. When I make the Xerox printer the
> default once again, and open the document, I don't get the unavailable
> fonts message, and Times is once again black in the right-click font
> context menu.
>
> I looked around my system, in all the folders I saw mentioned in various
> sites, but didn't find Times anywhere. In the PDD file for the Xerox
> printer there is a line that has Times on it. The printer support people
> printed out the list of fonts on the HP. It doesn't appear to have
> Times.
>
> Now, I have several questions. I realize that it may not be possible to
> know exactly from this description what is going on, but I welcome
> guesses.
>
> Does it sound like I don't really have Times on my system, but
> Framemaker acts like Times is there when the Xerox is the selected
> printer because the Xerox has it?
>
> If the HP doesn't have it, what are the consequences of that? Which font
> did it use? Does it decide itself what is most compatible? It doesn't
> seem to have changed anything in my document. When I go back to the
> Xerox, Times seems ok again. Will the unavailable fonts message
> interfere with smooth updating of the book?
>
> What is the best course of action to take:
>
> Try to buy Times somewhere? (Or rather, try to convince my organization
> to buy Times somewhere)
> Change my templates to use Times New Roman?
> Just live with the unavailable fonts message?
>
> It once seemed to me that Times New Roman was a bit more crowded than
> Times. That's why I always resisted Times New Roman. Is the difference
> just a figment of my imagination? Also, is there a difference in
> appearance between Times Roman and Times New Roman?
>
> In short, any information would be appreciated, and will help me to
> communicate to the printer support people in my organization what the
> issues are. Right now they just regard me as the troublemaker who uses
> Framemaker...
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
>
>
>
>
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