FM8 HTML output
Judy
judy at hypack.com
Wed Sep 17 11:54:04 PDT 2008
Charlie,
I'm trying to do the same thing. I've used RH for years, but I'm new to FM.
I've finally gotten *most* of the unstructured FM functionality down and I'm
moving my doc set into TCS. I'd be more than willing to share notes.
I began with 1 shorter chapters (less than 100 pgs.) and was able to import
them by copy to FM8 and tweak the formatting. I was also able to
successfully add those by reference to RH.(At least I got topic files in RH.
I haven't fiddled with the TOC and index.)
Last week I attempted a much larger chapter and RH doesn't recognize it as a
valid FM file. I found a thread in the user forum that said there's a file
size limit. If I remember correctly, their experience was that 25MB would
work. I've had 15MB files go "unrecognized".
I went back into FM and learned a lot about document properties and book
settings, and am in the process of trying to work around that size limit.
I was trying to include numbered chapters, headings, figures, and pages. I
can do it successfully in 1 continuous *.fm file, but I have trouble if I
have to break it into smaller files. I can get the page numbers to run
consecutively, but heading, figure and table numbers restart with each new
fm file!
I think I may be able to further decrease my file size by entering the
images by reference too, but that will take way more time than I have before
my release deadline in early Dec.. (Did I mention I'm a lone writer and
have to start writing the new content now?! This is a major leap of faith!)
Does anyone out there have any ideas?
Judy
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Today's Topics:
1. Handling source files for translation to several languages
(Andersen, Verner Engell VEA)
2. RE: FM8 HTML output (Diane Gaskill)
3. Re: FM8 HTML output (Yves Barbion)
4. Re: Hypertext command (Shlomo Perets)
5. Translation into japanese and chinese
(Andersen, Verner Engell VEA)
6. Is it possible to use a PNG with transparency in FM 7.2?
(Roger Bell)
7. RE: Tageditor and Framemaker, any special rules
(Andersen, Verner Engell VEA)
8. RE: SOLVED Re: Acrobat displays only B/W (Lea Rush)
9. Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker
(Andersen, Verner Engell VEA)
10. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (John Posada)
11. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Vijay)
12. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Rick Quatro)
13. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Yves Barbion)
14. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Scott Prentice)
15. RE: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Kelly McDaniel)
16. OT: Place to search for Frame contracts (Jerilynne Knight)
17. Display date text insets changed in containter file
(Mollye Barrett)
18. FM8 crashes (Charlie Kyle)
19. RE: FM8 crashes (Lea Rush)
20. RE: Handling source files for translation to several
languages (Diane Gaskill)
21. RE: FM8 crashes (Gagne, Bernard (Bolton))
22. RE: FM8 crashes (Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter))
23. Rename Files - Was Hypertext command ( FCI Info )
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:46:14 +0200
From: "Andersen, Verner Engell VEA" <verner.andersen at radiometer.dk>
Subject: Handling source files for translation to several languages
To: <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
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We are going to translate our FM books into several languages. We use
unstructured Framemaker.
Right now our directory structure looks as follows:
Language folder
- Text insets (corporate) (disclaimer, warranty, eula, terms of use)
- Graphics (corporate) (logo, IVD, CE)
- Text insets (product-specific)
- Product manual folder
- Framemaker files
- PDF files
- Graphics (language specific)
- Graphics (product generic)
Do you have a suggestion of how to handle the translation process? I know
that the translators are to use a tag editor and that the files are to go
into Trados.
I suggest that the Framemaker files are converted to .mif and that the same
folder structure is created in each language. I also suggest that we keep
the same file names for graphics in all languages.
How do you handle it all?
Do you track changes between editions in the FM source file, use pdf
comparison or a separate Word file, or something else?
Do you write down each graphics which has been updated since the last
edition?
If you have a well-proven procdure for updating translated manuals I would
be greatful.
Med venlig hilsen - Best regards
Verner Andersen
Technical Writer
Radiometer Medical ApS
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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 02:53:13 -0700
From: "Diane Gaskill" <dgcaller at earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: FM8 HTML output
To: "Charlie Kyle" <Charlie.Kyle at Attachmate.com>, "Matt Sullivan"
<matt at grafixtraining.com>, "Combs, Richard"
<richard.combs at Polycom.com>, <bruce.macarthur at vsea.com>,
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Charlie,
I and my colleagues can recommend Matt highly. He came to HDS and taught us
how to use the TCS in just two days. He did a great job.
Diane Gaskill
Hitachi Data Systems
Santa Clara, CA
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Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 4:29 PM
To: Matt Sullivan; Combs, Richard; bruce.macarthur at vsea.com;
framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM8 HTML output
I am in the midst of hooking up a FM8 book to RH7. I'm following the
instructions from RJ Jacquez demo at
https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a295153/p13101233/ This seems to be the
only source of information from Adobe on how to do this.
I'm importing the book by reference into an existing RH7 project and then
going thru a reiterative process to fine tune stuff like style maps and xref
styles. I was completely baffled by how get the FM TOC and Index associated
with the Help project. As I was writing this email, I remembered a
presentation by Kevin Siegal that I downloaded from the STC
2008 Conference web site. In there, I just found out that the TOC and Index
have to be assigned to a RH layout.
Caution! Small Digression: This process is reminding me of when I used to
try to play Dungeons and Dragons from a VAX command line prompt. This was BI
(Before Internet) when we had more time for such things and Games weren't
part of the GNP :-)
Does anyone know of a source for some information about hooking up FM8 books
to RH7?
Thanks,
Charlie Kyle
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To: 'Combs, Richard'; bruce.macarthur at vsea.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM8 HTML output
If, along with FM, you have a need to keep Acrobat, Captivate or RoboHelp
licenses current then the TCS is hard to beat.
Along with the 4 apps is extra integration beyond HTM or Help outputs.
Put Flash movies & simulations along with working 3D models into FM and
output to the needed PDF or Help format.
TCS 1.x is a bit finicky in setup and can have a 5-10 hour learning curve on
the first project, but has a huge return on investment after setup.
Currently there are only a few folks who can help with support outside
Adobe. If you need help, let me know. If anyone else out there is working at
a high level in this, let me (& Adobe) know and we can trade notes.
-Matt Sullivan
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:51:38 +0200
From: "Yves Barbion" <yves.barbion at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: FM8 HTML output
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Better news is also that the new ePublisher platform (2008.2) has improved A
LOT:
- Better UI
- Good DITA support (with the DITA Open Toolkit integrated)
- Better documentation (Help) and a wealth of valuable information on the
WebWorks site (videos, wiki Help Center...)
- The ability to handle "mixed content" as input: not only "unstructured"
FrameMaker files, but also DITA maps and even W*rd files. Surely, only 1
"input adapter" is included when you buy ePublisher and you have buy the
additional ones, but at least you have this option.
- Better configuration: 1 ePublisher Pro to design "stationery" (style
sheets) and a number of ePublisher Express licenses to generate output,
using the stationery.
- A number of "themes" included by default.
So, Bruce, if you develop templates for the writers of your techpubs group,
I think the new ePublisher platform is well worth the investment.
Admittedly, you'll have to redesign your ePublisher "templates", but you'll
get a lot in return. And the tech writers can use Express and your
stationery to generate their output.
You can always request an evaluation version and compare it with MIF2Go
(which is great too) and RoboHelp.
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On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 10:53 PM, Combs, Richard
<richard.combs at polycom.com>wrote:
> <bruce.macarthur at vsea.com>
> OK, I've got bad news, worse news, and then better news for you. :-)
>
> Bad: WebWorks Publisher is long dead. You'd have to switch to its
> replacement, ePublisher Pro.
>
> Worse: ePublisher Pro is very different from WWP -- an xml-based
> solution with a non-trivial learning curve. Your WWP macro language
> skills don't transfer. Old WWP licenses no longer qualify for an upgrade
> price. And it costs an arm and a leg.
>
> Better: If you have to buy new FM licenses anyway, you should seriously
> consider the Adobe Technical Communication Suite instead. It includes
> versions of FM and RoboHelp that are tightly integrated (or so I'm told;
> we're still looking into it here, but are likely to upgrade to the suite
> soon).
>
> IMHO, YMMV, etc.
>
> Richard
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:28:22 +0300
From: Shlomo Perets <shlomo2 at microtype.com>
Subject: Re: Hypertext command
To: "Stephen O'Brien" <sobrien at innovmetric.com>
Cc: framers at frameusers.com, framers at omsys.com,
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Stephen,
You wrote:
>I place the hypertext command below in a FM 8
>document to open a PDF file on clicking the link.
>It works unless the file name has an apostrophe
>(happens often as the file names are in French), like below:
>
>Type: Message Client
>
>Command: message openfile \\civette/4654 Project d'IMSurvey.pdf
>
>Does anyone know how to solve this problem?
>
>For now I remane the PDF file and replace the
>apostrophe by undescore, but it's manual and not
>practical. Would prefer getting the hypertext command to work...
In the Hypertext dialog box, type \" (backslash followed by a straight
quote character) instead of the apostrophe.
Shlomo Perets
MicroType, FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting
"24 easy ways to improve your PDFs with FrameMaker-to-Acrobat
TimeSavers/Assistants",
http://www.microtype.com/ImprovePDF.html
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:25:40 +0200
From: "Andersen, Verner Engell VEA" <verner.andersen at radiometer.dk>
Subject: Translation into japanese and chinese
To: <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
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Our manuals are to be translated into japanese and chinese
We plan to a folder structure similart to the that of the English
manual. We use Trados and Tageditor.
Any problems with file names, folder names etc.? Will a copy of the
English folder work when we replace the English files with say Japanese
framemaker files. I am thinking of links to graphics and text insets.
Med venlig hilsen - Best regards
Verner Andersen
Technical Writer
Radiometer Medical ApS
Phone +45 3827 3612
Fax +45 3827 2727
verner.andersen at radiometer.dk
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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:34:52 -0400
From: "Roger Bell" <RBell at vcgsoftware.com>
Subject: Is it possible to use a PNG with transparency in FM 7.2?
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We normally use PNG screen captures in our guides. A few weeks ago, I
decided I wanted to place a torn edge stamp on one of the images. I
saved it in HyperSnap 6.31 with the stamp color as transparent. All is
good.
When I imported the file (by reference) into FM 7.2 (unstructured), the
transparent color was visible. Is this a FM issue or am I missing
something here? I don't want to use GIF images because the resolution is
poor.
Thanks,
Roger Bell
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:06:02 +0200
From: "Andersen, Verner Engell VEA" <verner.andersen at radiometer.dk>
Subject: RE: Tageditor and Framemaker, any special rules
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Hello
I just learned that markers need to be placed in front of or after a
word in Framemaker when preparing for Trados and tageditor. Otherwise
tag-editor will not recognise the word.
Are there any other special rules that I need to be aware of?
Med venlig hilsen - Best regards
Verner Andersen
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Radiometer Medical ApS
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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:44:32 -0700
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:14:52 +0200
From: "Andersen, Verner Engell VEA" <verner.andersen at radiometer.dk>
Subject: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker
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Hello
Arrgh
All my linked graphics have numbers as the file name, like "08-204". Now
the company decision is that they should have letters, like
"analyzer_main".
We plan to keep all file names the same in all translated languages.
Is there an easy way to do this without having to reimport.
Maybe there is a tool?
Med venlig hilsen - Best regards
Verner Andersen
Technical Writer
Radiometer Medical ApS
Phone +45 3827 3612
Fax +45 3827 2727
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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:33:44 -0400
From: "John Posada" <jposada99 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker
To: "Andersen, Verner Engell VEA" <verner.andersen at radiometer.dk>
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How does it know that "08-204" is the same as "analyzer_main"?
> Is there an easy way to do this without having to reimport.
> Maybe there is a tool?
--
John Posada
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:09:46 +0530
From: Vijay <tarwalavijay at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker
To: "John Posada" <jposada99 at gmail.com>
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
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Hi Verner,
I am curious to understand why was the change suggested at this time ?
The team / manager must take a decision before beginning the project
on the best-practices keeping the future plan in mind, and adhere to
it.
I believe there will be a valid reason for the current numbered naming
convention. So, instead of restructuring the naming convention from
numbers to descriptive text, I recommend leaving the file names as is
for now. If at all you have no alternative, it is going to be a very
tedious and time consuming effort.
Regards and Best Wishes,
Vijay
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> How does it know that "08-204" is the same as "analyzer_main"?
>
>> Is there an easy way to do this without having to reimport.
>> Maybe there is a tool?
>
>
> John Posada
> Senior Technical Writer
> NYMetro STC President
>
> 'Half this game is ninety percent mental.'
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:48:51 -0400
From: "Rick Quatro" <frameexpert at truevine.net>
Subject: Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker
To: "Andersen, Verner Engell VEA" <verner.andersen at radiometer.dk>,
<framers at lists.frameusers.com>
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Hi Verner,
The best way to do this is to build a "map" in Excel or in a text file that
maps the old names to the new names. Then you can use FrameScript to not
only rename the graphics on the disk, but also to update the paths in your
FrameMaker documents. You could run the script on a single document, book,
or folder. If you are interested in this type of solution, please contact me
offlist. Thank you very much.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
> Hello
> Arrgh
>
> All my linked graphics have numbers as the file name, like "08-204". Now
> the company decision is that they should have letters, like
> "analyzer_main".
> We plan to keep all file names the same in all translated languages.
>
> Is there an easy way to do this without having to reimport.
> Maybe there is a tool?
>
> Med venlig hilsen - Best regards
> Verner Andersen
> Technical Writer
>
> Radiometer Medical ApS
> Phone +45 3827 3612
> Fax +45 3827 2727
> verner.andersen at radiometer.dk
> --------------------------------------------------------
>
> Radiometer Medical ApS
> Akandevej 21
> 2700 Bronshoj
> Denmark
> Phone: +45 38 27 38 27
> CVR: 27 50 91 85
>
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:54:39 +0200
From: "Yves Barbion" <yves.barbion at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
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I guess this must be possible with a framescript but, as John pointed out,
someone is going to have to create a "mapping table" with the old and new
file names of the graphics. I wouldn't have the patience to do this for 300
graphics.
And, like Vijay said, does the reason for renaming the graphics justify the
effort it will take? You can easily create a hyperlinked list of imported
graphics in FrameMaker and there are a lot of (free) "image viewers"
available to find and manage your graphics.
Kind regards
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Instructor
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:55:25 -0700
From: Scott Prentice <sp at leximation.com>
Subject: Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker
To: "Andersen, Verner Engell VEA" <verner.andersen at radiometer.dk>
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
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I'd export the FM files to MIF, then use Perl (or some batch search and
replace tool) to rename the references.
...scott
Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892
Andersen, Verner Engell VEA wrote:
> Hello
> Arrgh
>
> All my linked graphics have numbers as the file name, like "08-204". Now
> the company decision is that they should have letters, like
> "analyzer_main".
> We plan to keep all file names the same in all translated languages.
>
> Is there an easy way to do this without having to reimport.
> Maybe there is a tool?
>
>
>
>
> Med venlig hilsen - Best regards
> Verner Andersen
> Technical Writer
>
> Radiometer Medical ApS
> Phone +45 3827 3612
> Fax +45 3827 2727
> verner.andersen at radiometer.dk
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:00:47 -0500
From: "Kelly McDaniel" <kmcdaniel at pavtech.com>
Subject: RE: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker
To: "Vijay" <tarwalavijay at gmail.com>, "John Posada"
<jposada99 at gmail.com>
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
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I faced a similar issue when I inherited 11 books with almost 1.500
graphics. The graphics file names, in some cases, were numeric, and in
others they were human-readable, but in someone else's shorthand. My
goal was to segregate books/files into discrete directories with a
graphics child directory in each book dir.
1. I created the book/files and graphics directories, establishing a
scalable directory structure.
2. I manually moved books and all related files into their respective
directories. This broke all inter-book cross-refs. This was OK, since I
produce only PDFs.
3. I renamed all books and files to a logical, human-readable scheme.
For example, ana_gr_vws.fm became <product framework name>_<application
name>_Analyzer_graph_views.fm.
4. I click-dragged ALL GRAPHICS into each child graphics folder in each
book folder.
5. I opened the book in FM and answered Use This New Path when the
graphics broken link window appeared.
6. I ran a utility to delete all unused graphics.
7. I used a renaming utility to append
<product framework name>_<application name>_Analyzer as a file name
prefix.
8. I re-opened the book in FM and this time, at each graphics link
break, I manually re-established the link to each graphic, repeating the
previous few steps for each book.
It sounds like a lot of work, but it took less than 50 hours. What I got
in the end was a directory structure, file structure, and naming
convention that works well for scalability and can readily be used by a
junior writer...regards, Kelly.
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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Vijay
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 10:40 AM
To: John Posada
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker
Hi Verner,
I am curious to understand why was the change suggested at this time ?
The team / manager must take a decision before beginning the project
on the best-practices keeping the future plan in mind, and adhere to
it.
I believe there will be a valid reason for the current numbered naming
convention. So, instead of restructuring the naming convention from
numbers to descriptive text, I recommend leaving the file names as is
for now. If at all you have no alternative, it is going to be a very
tedious and time consuming effort.
Regards and Best Wishes,
Vijay
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On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:03 PM, John Posada <jposada99 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> How does it know that "08-204" is the same as "analyzer_main"?
>
>> Is there an easy way to do this without having to reimport.
>> Maybe there is a tool?
>
>
> John Posada
> Senior Technical Writer
> NYMetro STC President
>
> 'Half this game is ninety percent mental.'
> -- Danny Ozark, Philadelphia Phillies manager
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:11:28 -0500
From: "Jerilynne Knight" <jerilynne.knight at gmail.com>
Subject: OT: Place to search for Frame contracts
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Hi all
I wondered if any of you know of a good place to look for unstructured Frame
projects or if there is even any need for that kind of support. I'm
interested in doing some offsite production or template design work and it
has been a while since I needed to do a search, so I'm a bit out of the
loop! I have two projects nearing completion and, since I enjoy eating and
my landlord loves to get his rent on time, I figured it was time to do some
checking!
Thanks in advance for any advice/recommendations/suggestions.
Have an amazing day, filled with powerful passionate possibilities.
Jerilynne (Sander) Knight
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:32:16 -0500
From: Mollye Barrett <mollye at clearpath.cc>
Subject: Display date text insets changed in containter file
To: FrameUsers <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
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Hi All,
My client has many unstructred Frame books (average page count 700
pages)?with text insets and referenced graphics. They want to be able
to do a couple of things that elude me...
* Display change date on pages in a book where text insets have changed.
* Generate a list of changes (not with track changes) so users
viewing the final PDF will know what has changed in the newest version
of the book.
My sense is that this might be done with FrameScript but wonder if
there is a plug-in or Frame function that I'm not aware of.
All suggestions welcome and any help appreciated!
Mollye Barrett
ClearPath, LLC
content management solutions
www.clearpath.cc
414-331-1378 (cell)
Director, Marketing Communications
Content Management Professionals
www.cmprofessionals.org
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:19:29 -0700
From: "Charlie Kyle" <Charlie.Kyle at Attachmate.com>
Subject: FM8 crashes
To: <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
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<8672B9B3371CBF40B3DE864C6E5368D603458057 at exch-sea3.attachmate.com>
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XP SP2, Pentium 1.5 GHz, 2 GB RAM
Tech Com Suite 1.3, FM 8.0p277
With Outlook and FM open, FM seems to crash for no reason and I often
get very sluggish performance in Outlook. Users around me report no slow
down in their Outlook.
Has anyone else had problems running FM8 concurrently with MS Office or
other programs? Would a faster processor make a significant difference?
Thanks,
Charlie Kyle
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:30:33 -0700
From: "Lea Rush" <lea at astoria-pacific.com>
Subject: RE: FM8 crashes
To: <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
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I haven't run FM 8 (same version, standalone unstructured) very much since I
upgraded, but I will say that I have Outlook open constantly and haven't
seen any FM or Outlook issues. I'm running on Vista, Core2 Duo 2.20 GHz, 3
GB RAM.
Just a datum,
Lea
_________________________________
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Software and Documentation Specialist
Astoria-Pacific International
PO Box 830 Clackamas OR 97015
PH: 800-657-3010
FAX: 503-655-7367
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Kyle
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:19 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FM8 crashes
XP SP2, Pentium 1.5 GHz, 2 GB RAM
Tech Com Suite 1.3, FM 8.0p277
With Outlook and FM open, FM seems to crash for no reason and I often
get very sluggish performance in Outlook. Users around me report no slow
down in their Outlook.
Has anyone else had problems running FM8 concurrently with MS Office or
other programs? Would a faster processor make a significant difference?
Thanks,
Charlie Kyle
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:55:10 -0700
From: "Diane Gaskill" <dgcaller at earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Handling source files for translation to several
languages
To: "Andersen, Verner Engell VEA" <verner.andersen at radiometer.dk>,
<framers at lists.frameusers.com>
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Hi Verner,
You save a little money by converting the files to MIF, but it's not needed.
Most LSPs will do that for you as part of the prep process. The
Translator's Workbench uses the MIF files directly now and does not convert
them to Word.
I'm under the gun for a Friday deadline and will get back to you later on
the tree structure.
Cheers,
Diane Gaskill
=============================
-----Original Message-----
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Andersen,
Verner Engell VEA
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:46 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Handling source files for translation to several languages
We are going to translate our FM books into several languages. We use
unstructured Framemaker.
Right now our directory structure looks as follows:
Language folder
- Text insets (corporate) (disclaimer, warranty, eula, terms of use)
- Graphics (corporate) (logo, IVD, CE)
- Text insets (product-specific)
- Product manual folder
- Framemaker files
- PDF files
- Graphics (language specific)
- Graphics (product generic)
Do you have a suggestion of how to handle the translation process? I
know that the translators are to use a tag editor and that the files are
to go into Trados.
I suggest that the Framemaker files are converted to .mif and that the
same folder structure is created in each language. I also suggest that
we keep the same file names for graphics in all languages.
How do you handle it all?
Do you track changes between editions in the FM source file, use pdf
comparison or a separate Word file, or something else?
Do you write down each graphics which has been updated since the last
edition?
If you have a well-proven procdure for updating translated manuals I
would be greatful.
Med venlig hilsen - Best regards
Verner Andersen
Technical Writer
Radiometer Medical ApS
Phone +45 3827 3612
Fax +45 3827 2727
verner.andersen at radiometer.dk
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Denmark
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:15:49 -0400
From: "Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)" <bgagne at husky.ca>
Subject: RE: FM8 crashes
To: <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
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I had to add my two-cents.
We had three systems running FM8 on XP SP2. Two had 1 GB of RAM, one had
2 GB.
We had all the updates to Frame 8. We found FM8 would crash several
times a day, and always whenever we used an MS Office app. The most
frequent culprit was trying to open a mail attachment.
Recently, one of us got a new system with a Core2Duo processor and 2 GB
or RAM. No more crashes.
We're currently lobbying for the other two systems to be upgraded.
Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada
-----Original Message-----
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lea Rush
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 2:31 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM8 crashes
I haven't run FM 8 (same version, standalone unstructured) very much
since I upgraded, but I will say that I have Outlook open constantly and
haven't seen any FM or Outlook issues. I'm running on Vista, Core2 Duo
2.20 GHz, 3 GB RAM.
Just a datum,
Lea
_________________________________
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Software and Documentation Specialist
Astoria-Pacific International
PO Box 830 Clackamas OR 97015
PH: 800-657-3010
FAX: 503-655-7367
-----Original Message-----
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Kyle
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:19 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FM8 crashes
XP SP2, Pentium 1.5 GHz, 2 GB RAM
Tech Com Suite 1.3, FM 8.0p277
With Outlook and FM open, FM seems to crash for no reason and I often
get very sluggish performance in Outlook. Users around me report no slow
down in their Outlook.
Has anyone else had problems running FM8 concurrently with MS Office or
other programs? Would a faster processor make a significant difference?
Thanks,
Charlie Kyle
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:13:17 -0400
From: "Bernard Aschwanden \(Publishing Smarter\)"
<bernard at publishingsmarter.com>
Subject: RE: FM8 crashes
To: "'Charlie Kyle'" <Charlie.Kyle at Attachmate.com>,
<framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Message-ID: <001301c91839$073dc160$0301a8c0 at batmobile>
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If you find FM crashes often feel free to email me offlist and I can send
you a little batch file I have that deletes the font cache (often found here
C:\WINDOWS\system32\fntcache.dat) and reboots. The font cache has caused FM
crashes on PDF builds time and again on my system.
I've also given this to a few clients who have reported general success.
It's not a promise that this fixes anything, and it's also no promise that
if things go wrong I'm to blame. It comes with the usual "if this works,
great, and if not then it's not my fault and you can't sue me" side of
things :)
Bernard
Bernard Aschwanden
President
Publishing Smarter
www.publishingsmarter.com
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:15:17 -0300
From: " FCI Info " <info at furia.com.br>
Subject: Rename Files - Was Hypertext command
To: "Stephen O'Brien" <sobrien at innovmetric.com>
Cc: framers at frameusers.com, framers at omsys.com,
stclwrsig-l at mailman.stc.org
Message-ID: <20080916211517.4452.qmail at hm598.locaweb.com.br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
The best - and cheaper - program to rename files is
Bulk Rename Utility.
As I know it's the only that has correct support to regular expressions.
Only a satisfied customer.
Furia
>For now I remane the PDF file and replace the
>apostrophe by undescore, but it's manual and not
>practical.
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