How do you create a new paragraph after a table?

David Spreadbury dspreadb at yahoo.com
Mon Jan 19 06:36:01 PST 2009


Looking at Sharon's, Caroline's, and my earlier post on this subject:
 
Setting the Heading1 para format to start at top of page is a smart idea. In the Heading1 format, set Keep with Next. The following item, typically a Para, should have the Widow/Orphan value set to a minimum of 3 which should keep at least three lines of text with the heading, where ever it happens to fall.
 
Set Keep with Next in all other Headingx para formats and Widow/Orphan, again, to a minimum of 3. This will cause all headings, with a Para of at less than six lines, to go to the top of the next page.
 
In your table cell format, make sure that Keep with Next is NOT set. This should keep the table from sticking to the following format, whatever it is.
 
If you apply these settings to your template, it should eliminate most, if not all, post processing work on any document created with this template.
 

--- On Mon, 1/19/09, Sharon Burton <sharon at anthrobytes.com> wrote:

From: Sharon Burton <sharon at anthrobytes.com>
Subject: RE: How do you create a new paragraph after a table?
To: "Bodvar Bjorgvinsson" <bodvar at gmail.com>, "Avraham Makeler" <amakeler at gmail.com>
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 8:07 AM

Typically, you do one of the following:

1. Decide in your book design all Heading1s, for example, will always start
at the top of the page. In that case, build it into the paragraph style
using instructions others have posted to the list.

2. When the content is complete, do copy-fitting to make content fall on the
page where you want it. In that case, you may wish to manually insert page
breaks, knowing that you will remove these when it's time to update the
content in the future.

Inserting page breaks for copy-fitting while you are crating content results
in a large amount of rework in the future, as added content will move page
breaks around and must manually be managed.

As an note to people new to Frame: I always strongly recommend you work with
all Markers turned on. Quickly, you will stop seeing them until you need to
see them. This lets you see index markers, xref markers, table markers and
so on. If you turn them off, Frame will happily let you still delete them
but you will have no idea why they are gone.


sharon

Sharon Burton
951-369-8590


-----Original Message-----
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Bodvar
Bjorgvinsson
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 5:45 AM
To: Avraham Makeler
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: How do you create a new paragraph after a table?


If anyone needed to add a couple of lines somewhere in the document
before this table, resulting in moving the table (a small one I
suppose) to the next page, or had to delete some contents resulting in
the opposite direction of move, would you still want this page brake
where you put it originally? If so I would seriously think of
splitting the file instead.

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

2009/1/19 Avraham Makeler <amakeler at gmail.com>:
> Thanks for the responses.
>
>>> You could choose Special> Page Break. The problem with that
method is
> that FrameMaker removes the page break anytime you remove overrides.
> What?!  Really?! In Word this is style independent and is a hard break ,
as
> real as typing "avi" or any ASCII character(s). No way of making
a
permanent
> page break?
>
> And if I make a Heading style that starts at the start of a page, I will
> have to make a variant like that for H2, H3, H4  and H5.
>
> Thanks,
>
> - avi
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Mike Wickham <info at mikewickham.com>
wrote:
>
>> I have a table *immediately* followed by a heading, the latter being
almost
>>> at the end of the page. So I would like to insert a page break
before
the
>>> heading. How do I do that?
>>>

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