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[Kelly McDaniel]

I fear mine may have been the initial post that started the green
discussion. For that, please accept my apology.

The question I asked, though not directly related to FrameMaker, was
more in the venue of how PDFs were used without any green subtext. The
point of the issue is that I am attempting to move a PDF-only corporate
habit into an online delivery paradigm. To that end, I received many
off-list responses from folks I consider to be tops in the field. For
that, I am grateful...regards, Kelly.

-----Original Message-----
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bodvar
Bjorgvinsson
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 3:20 AM
To: Howard Rauch
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Off List

Howard,

I agree: this is a quality list. :-)

This list has never, and in my view, should not be limiting itself to
technical solutions regarding FM problems, although this will always
be the main issue. There is so much more about FM than that, mainly
because of how different FM is to most publishing software. One of the
main questions is about when FM is applicable and when not. A
subquestion could be about the "greens" as you call it. Discussion of
that can be helpful in order to decide how much weight one should put
on the single-sourcing capabilities of FM. So I would think it is a
valid question on this list.

I'd rather keep things the way they have been for the six years I have
been on the list than having to try to search through a plethora of
lists discussing this or that border product of what would be
"allowable" on the FM list. It saves me a lot of time.

There have, from time to time, come up issues on the list that are
totally not related to FM or the list as a list. These issues have
been dealt with by the other framers and sometimes the list manager.

Thanks to all Framers on the list throughout the years. :-)

And, don't misunderstand me: I think your point qualifies as a valid
point for the list to discuss:
"What does and should the list stand for?"

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

2009/1/25 Howard Rauch <techtransfer at sbcglobal.net>:
> One of the qualities of this list that I have always considered
important was that it was devoted to the best ways for using FrameMaker
whether for solving problems or evaluating its use. I have subscribed to
other lists and discontinued them because so many of the participants
were pushing their own personal agendas (I call them "whiners") as
opposed to the purpose of the list.
>
> I have personally noted that a few have been pursuing the green agenda
as of late (myself included) whether pro-green or anti-green. The
questionnaire about printing user manuals itself promoted neither
agenda, but (1) it has promoted a good deal of controversial responses
on both sides of the green issue and (2) it was not really a FrameMaker
issue.
>
> My point is this: When any of us submit anything to the FrameMaker
list, let's make sure it deals with the use of FrameMaker and not with
personal issues.
>
> Howard Rauch
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