FM9 Upgrade

[Scott White]

I just got this back from my printer.

"Hey Scott!

Hope all are doing well - looks like you've got a winner!  I ran your
PDF through our RIP and there was no RGB conflicts at all - excellent!"

Good news.


Scott White
Media Production Manager
Implementation Coordinator
210-704-8239
swhite at alamark.com



On Jan 27, 2009, at 2:57 PM, Scott White wrote:

> We get this exact same response with all but one printer we use,
> "These are RGB you need to fix."
> I don't understand why they give us the runaround as they have the
> software and ability to take just about any rgb pdf and make the
> necessary plates for printing.
> I have to get on the phone with them time and time again about this. I
> have to do this for all my clients who want to print as well.
>
> I'm hoping the FM9 can at least make these print houses happy by
> giving true 4-color or 2-color output like the old FM 7.0 on the mac
> did.
> What I have seen is if I "save as" the PDF file comes out right as
> long as my setup is correct on my end.
> I now have a sample sent to my reliable printer, the one who never
> questions my jobs but just does the transformation for me, of a PDF
> created using FM9, setup for four-color, and acrobat distiller. We
> shall see.
>
>
> Scott White
> Media Production Manager
> Implementation Coordinator
> 210-704-8239
> swhite at alamark.com
>
>
>
> On Jan 27, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Alan Litchfield wrote:
>
>> Howard,
>>
>> Let's just say first that there is a lot of confusion about how to
>> deal with
>> RGB channels in "print <nearly> ready" pdfs. But you say you are
>> able to
>> output separations (two plates, I take it from your description -
>> one spot and
>> one black) so the plate makers should be able to convert any RGB to
>> black in
>> both separations.
>>
>> Howard Rauch wrote:
>>>
>>> Over the past several years, we have done 5 or 6 major documents
>>> and have had
>>> a problem with RGB color in each one. A printing house sees us
>>> coming and
>>> tries to go into a hiding because the original was a FM document.
>>
>> Then choose a different supplier. They obviously don't want the work.
>>
>>>
>>> We are currently finishing up another catalog (document) and have
>>> sent sample
>>> pages to the graphics house. The response is that the FM sample
>>> pages have
>>> "RGB channels" and are not suitable for offset printing.
>>
>> As above. But there is no such thing as an "RGB channel". RGB is  
>> three
>> channels, one for Red, one for Green, and one for Blue. An
>> application may
>> handle the three of them together for the sake of expediency.
>>
>>> The graphics house
>>> has now recommended that we use PhotoShop to set up a gray-scale
>>> channel for
>>> the spot color and import the gray-scale document into FM.
>>
>> If you are talking about an image that is in greyscale and if people
>> are
>> getting toey about it then save it as an eps or pdf and use that
>> with the spot
>> colour defined. When it is separated that spot colour will be
>> retained as a
>> separated plate.
>>
>>> My questions are these:
>>> - Is there a workaround, plug-in, or something that will enable me
>>> to get rid
>>> of the "RGB channels" and still allow me to use the spot color in
>>> Frame?
>>
>> As above. Prepress software is has been capable of converting RGB to
>> spot or
>> CMYK values for at least 10 years. This is not new technology. It is
>> not
>> something you need to do, it is handled by the prepress operator.
>>
>>> - Would FM9 or the new FM Graphics Suite solve the RGB/spot color
>>> problem?
>>>
>>
>> The word on the street is that it does, but only if you export to or
>> save as
>> pdf. Not if you print. Others will correct me if I am wrong.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> -- 
>> Alan Litchfield MBus (Hons), MNZCS
>> AlphaByte
>> PO Box 1941, Auckland
>> http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
>>
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