Horizontal Range Braces

Syed.Hosain at aeris.net Syed.Hosain at aeris.net
Tue Jun 16 10:07:39 PDT 2009


Hi, Baruch.

Okay, I tried your response and this worked well enough that I think I
can make do for what I am trying. Thanks!

But ... a comment and questions that might help me do yet better:

1. I used the Color > Definition > ... to make a new color - it is not
under the Special > ... (you did note that you had not done this
recently, so I am merely recording this here for other people :) ).

2. The brace length appears to have stepped settings - it doesn't
increase linearly with the text as nicely as I might like (to get a more
control on the size).

3. I tried to change the font size, and that helped a bit, but the brace
becomes pretty thin and faint then.

4. Applying a bold to the text (while the delimiter brace is also
selected) does not change the underbrace or overbrace at all though (as
far as I can tell).

Any recommendation on whether this brace can be changed to look a bit
"heavier" or more curved, etc? It seems to be quite independent of the
font ...

Thanks much again!

Z

-----Original Message-----
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem
Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 7:36 AM
To: Baruch Brodersen; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Horizontal Range Braces

Thanks! I will give this a try today.

Z

-----Original Message-----
From: Baruch Brodersen [mailto:Baruch.Brodersen at bigbandnet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 6:15 AM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net);
framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Horizontal Range Braces

Z,

You can create horizontal range braces in the Delimiter menu of the
Equation editor (Special > Equations Delimiter).

Inserting them is a little trickier. Create an equation with the sole
content being the horizontal range brace. To extend the width of the
brace you need to add text characters in the equation. If you don't want
those to appear in your final document, create a color---name it
something like "Invisible" (Special > Color > Definition > New Color)
and then give it an invisible view: (Special > Color > View >
Invisible). 

[It's been a while since I've done this, so feel free to chime in on the
correct method.]

Then create a new charter format and set everything to As Is except the
color, which you should make Invisible. Use that to make the characters
needed to widen the horizontal range brace disappear.

Shrink-wrap the equation (Esc, m, p), then select the equation's
anchored frame and change the alignment from Cropped to Floating
(Special > Anchored Frame). Drag the horizontal range brace to the
location you want, then right-click to send-to-back or front, or
whatever. You might consider creating the whole lot in a text inset so
the horizontal range brace moves with the text.

Best,

Baruch Brodersen


-----Original Message-----
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Syed.Hosain at aeris.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:21 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: 

Hi, all.
 
I am using FrameMaker 8 on a Windows Vista system.

How can I insert a "horizontal range brace" character or graphic like
the ones used in figure 3-4 on page 23 of this paper:

"h t t p : / / w w w . c d g . o r g / resources / white_papers /
MEID_EUIMID_Migration . p d f"

(All these e-mails from me to the list are bouncing. I assume they are
not going through due to the above URL. I will try again with many
spaces inserted. Please remove them to get to the file.)

The figure uses downward (and one upward) pointing brace-like "range
delimiters" that I'd like to do in a similar way for some diagrams I am
working. And to be able to simply and easily stretch them horizontally
to grow and shrink them as needed for other ranges. Without messing up
the quality of the curves at each end - i.e., make them look similar.

I can do everything else in that figure pretty easily, but I am stumped
on this particular item! I thought about trying to use the Equation
editor (did not see anything useful), or rotating a "{" text box (looked
messy when stretched), but these attempts did not work. The graphics
drawing tools just seem too limited for this ...

I am trying to avoid any tools outside FrameMaker to achieve this
result, by the way.

Thoughts? How have other people done anything similar?

Thanks in advance,

Z
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