Coverting Word docs to Structured Framemaker
Jurgen Willems
Jurgen at crius-group.com
Mon May 11 02:29:31 PDT 2009
Hello Tracy,
We've got a lot of expertise in converting word docs to medium-neutral
sources. What we always do is a transformation outside framemaker. We
transform the WordML (Word's XML scheme) to the disired DTD or scheme with a
XSLT conversion.
The way to go there is the same as you know it, only the technology used is
different. You first make an analysis of the source files and map this to
the disired DTD (structure). The result will be a conversion table that you
need to translate to XSLT syntax (the most difficult part of the job).
Hope this helps.
Met vriendelijke groeten,
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Jurgen Willems
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Today's Topics:
1. Coverting Word docs to Structured Framemaker (Gill, Tracy)
2. OT: Adobe TCS2--RoboHelp 8 integration with FrameMaker 9
(Peter Kelly)
3. Re: Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9 (Jenny Greenleaf)
4. Aligning Tables (Mike Hatmaker)
5. Conference: Technical Communication UK, 2009 (Martin Ley)
6. Re: Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9 (Whites)
7. RE: Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9 (RJ Jacquez)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 07:51:11 +1200
From: "Gill, Tracy" <Tracy.Gill at airnz.co.nz>
Subject: Coverting Word docs to Structured Framemaker
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Hi All,
Has anyone any expertise in converting word docs to structured
framemaker. I have done a lot of converting unstructured frame to
structured frame using the conversion table and wondered whether I would
use the same process for word documents?
Thanks
Tracy
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 16:29:23 -0400
From: "Peter Kelly" <pkelly at oriongis.com>
Subject: OT: Adobe TCS2--RoboHelp 8 integration with FrameMaker 9
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Hello everybody,
I just tried evaluating the Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
found that RoboHelp 8 in particular did not produce consistent results.
I managed to corrupt every project I created only by continuously making
changes in the style mappings from FM to RH and then regenerating.
Sometimes the TOC would not generate at all. Has anyone been using RH8
and has anyone been able to get good results? If so what are you doing
right? Yes I watched the tutorial Adobe produced on FM9 and RH8, which
helped improve my results but it doesn't change the fact that RH8 seems
unstable.
Best,
Peter
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 14:27:16 -0700
From: Jenny Greenleaf <jgreenleaf at mac.com>
Subject: Re: Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Madeleine r Dimond <mrdimond at us.ibm.com>
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I've seen that one too.
I've also had repeated crashes when trying to delete variables from a
Frame 7 template. It's done it several times. Prior to that, I can
click on a variable name, but the confirmation dialog references a
different one.
I save a lot.
Jenny
On May 7, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Madeleine r Dimond wrote:
> I've noticed that the Paragraph Designer does stick, though where I've
> noticed it is when I try to call the Commands list. I click, and
> nothing
> happens. At some point the keyboard shortcuts quit working too, and
> eventually I shut down and restart, unless it crashes first.
>
> I'm running stand-alone FM 9 with the first patch on Windows XP SP2.
>
> Best,
>
>
> Madeleine
>
>
> Susan Corcoran wrote on 05/07/2009 02:00:01 AM:
>
>> ------------------------------
>> Hello fellow Framers,
>>
>> I've upgraded to FM9 recently and I've found an odd quirk. I
>> wonder if
>> anyone else has seen the paragraph designer get stuck on a single
>> panel?
>> I can be working along just fine, and suddenly the paragraph designer
>> refuses to switch views between Basic, Default Font, Pagination,
>> etc. I
>> can get the dropdown list of tags, but cannot change the tag name. I
>> can get rid of the panel or pod, but each time I bring up paragraph
>> designer, it's still stuck. Occasionally I can fix this by closing
>> and
>> reopening the doc, but more often I have to restart FrameMaker. I
>> work
>> with it in both structured and unstructured and it has happened with
>> both.
>>
>> Has anyone else seen this or know what could cause it?
>> I'm running FM9 through Tech Comm Suite on Windows XP.
>
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 17:29:33 -0400
From: Mike Hatmaker <mhat32 at gmail.com>
Subject: Aligning Tables
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Hi All,
I have a table in the header that I want to align with a table in the
the body. I want the bottom of the table in the header to touch the
top of the table in the body, but there is a gap that I can't remove.
I've tried overlapping the text frames but that covers some of the
information. Is there a way around this?
Mike
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 12:20:36 +0100
From: Martin Ley <martin at em-dash.com>
Subject: Conference: Technical Communication UK, 2009
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Hi folks,
As a Fellow of the ISTC in the UK, I have been asked to help out with
promoting our conference this year (Technical Communication UK). Apart
from more traditional marketing routes, we're dragging ourselves
kicking and screaming into the 21st century by aiming to get exposure
on Facebook and Twitter (@tcuk_conf) to name but two. I'm also
contacting groups that are appropriate to myself and other tech comms
specialists (I'm a Framemaker and InDesign user).
If you're interested, please take a look at the conference web site,
sign up to the newsletter or register:
http://www.technicalcommunicationuk.com/
While the conference is primarily aimed at UK/European delegates,
anyone is welcome to attend.
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 19:29:46 -0700
From: Whites <whitefamily at mac.com>
Subject: Re: Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9
To: Jenny Greenleaf <jgreenleaf at mac.com>
Cc: Frame Users <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
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Am I correct in concluding that there are not yet patches to fix the
keyboard shortcut bugs (F8 and F9 to assign character and paratags)?
These are astounding bugs in what used to be a couple of the most
useful tools in FM. Do any of the Adobe developers ever even bother
to use their own software? Where was QC on this??
Right now I find myself in the sad position of using Word for
documents I would normally do in FM.
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if the development of FM-9
was offshored?
Will White
Monrovia CA
On May 7, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Jenny Greenleaf wrote:
> I've seen that one too.
>
> I've also had repeated crashes when trying to delete variables from a
> Frame 7 template. It's done it several times. Prior to that, I can
> click on a variable name, but the confirmation dialog references a
> different one.
>
> I save a lot.
>
> Jenny
>
> On May 7, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Madeleine r Dimond wrote:
>
>> I've noticed that the Paragraph Designer does stick, though where
>> I've
>> noticed it is when I try to call the Commands list. I click, and
>> nothing
>> happens. At some point the keyboard shortcuts quit working too, and
>> eventually I shut down and restart, unless it crashes first.
>>
>> I'm running stand-alone FM 9 with the first patch on Windows XP SP2.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Madeleine
>>
>>
>> Susan Corcoran wrote on 05/07/2009 02:00:01 AM:
>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Hello fellow Framers,
>>>
>>> I've upgraded to FM9 recently and I've found an odd quirk. I
>>> wonder if
>>> anyone else has seen the paragraph designer get stuck on a single
>>> panel?
>>> I can be working along just fine, and suddenly the paragraph
>>> designer
>>> refuses to switch views between Basic, Default Font, Pagination,
>>> etc. I
>>> can get the dropdown list of tags, but cannot change the tag
>>> name. I
>>> can get rid of the panel or pod, but each time I bring up paragraph
>>> designer, it's still stuck. Occasionally I can fix this by closing
>>> and
>>> reopening the doc, but more often I have to restart FrameMaker. I
>>> work
>>> with it in both structured and unstructured and it has happened with
>>> both.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else seen this or know what could cause it?
>>> I'm running FM9 through Tech Comm Suite on Windows XP.
>>
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 21:18:38 -0700
From: RJ Jacquez <rjacquez at adobe.com>
Subject: RE: Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9
To: Whites <whitefamily at mac.com>, Jenny Greenleaf <jgreenleaf at mac.com>
Cc: Frame Users <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
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Hi Will, the F8/F9 issue is something we addressed in the first patch,
please make sure you have installed this update, by either selecting Help >
Updates, or by visiting this page and downloading the update:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22&platform=Windo
ws
Sincerely,
RJ J?cquez
Senior Product Evangelist
Adobe Technical Communication Suite
Adobe eLearning Solutions
http://blogs.adobe.com/rjacquez
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Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 7:30 PM
To: Jenny Greenleaf
Cc: Frame Users
Subject: Re: Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9
Am I correct in concluding that there are not yet patches to fix the
keyboard shortcut bugs (F8 and F9 to assign character and paratags)?
These are astounding bugs in what used to be a couple of the most
useful tools in FM. Do any of the Adobe developers ever even bother
to use their own software? Where was QC on this??
Right now I find myself in the sad position of using Word for
documents I would normally do in FM.
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if the development of FM-9
was offshored?
Will White
Monrovia CA
On May 7, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Jenny Greenleaf wrote:
> I've seen that one too.
>
> I've also had repeated crashes when trying to delete variables from a
> Frame 7 template. It's done it several times. Prior to that, I can
> click on a variable name, but the confirmation dialog references a
> different one.
>
> I save a lot.
>
> Jenny
>
> On May 7, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Madeleine r Dimond wrote:
>
>> I've noticed that the Paragraph Designer does stick, though where
>> I've
>> noticed it is when I try to call the Commands list. I click, and
>> nothing
>> happens. At some point the keyboard shortcuts quit working too, and
>> eventually I shut down and restart, unless it crashes first.
>>
>> I'm running stand-alone FM 9 with the first patch on Windows XP SP2.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Madeleine
>>
>>
>> Susan Corcoran wrote on 05/07/2009 02:00:01 AM:
>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Hello fellow Framers,
>>>
>>> I've upgraded to FM9 recently and I've found an odd quirk. I
>>> wonder if
>>> anyone else has seen the paragraph designer get stuck on a single
>>> panel?
>>> I can be working along just fine, and suddenly the paragraph
>>> designer
>>> refuses to switch views between Basic, Default Font, Pagination,
>>> etc. I
>>> can get the dropdown list of tags, but cannot change the tag
>>> name. I
>>> can get rid of the panel or pod, but each time I bring up paragraph
>>> designer, it's still stuck. Occasionally I can fix this by closing
>>> and
>>> reopening the doc, but more often I have to restart FrameMaker. I
>>> work
>>> with it in both structured and unstructured and it has happened with
>>> both.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else seen this or know what could cause it?
>>> I'm running FM9 through Tech Comm Suite on Windows XP.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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