Buying FrameMaker 7.2 (WAS: Framers Digest, Vol 52, Issue 12)

Steve Johnson chinaski69 at gmail.com
Fri Feb 12 08:55:33 PST 2010


It is possible, yes. Look on the Adobe Frame Form; if you can't find
it let me know and I'll send you details.

Basically what you do is get a volume license. You will need a Frame
7.2 CD and Adobe can give you the license number. I have not done it
myself.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Fei Min Lorente
<FeiMin.Lorente at onsemi.com> wrote:
> Hi Venkan:
>
> I don't think it can be done. Adobe is on FrameMaker version 9, and they
> typically pull all the older versions off the shelves everywhere. Maybe
> you can get a second-hand copy on eBay, but I'm only speculating.
>
> Fei Min
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> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 3:07 AM
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> Subject: RE: Framers Digest, Vol 52, Issue 12
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> Can anyone help how to buy the FrameMaker 7.2 License Version.
>
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>
> Venkan
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> Newgen Imaging Systems (P) Limited
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>   1. Benchmarking: Save as PDF in FM9 vs. FM8 (Yves Barbion)
>
>   2. Re: Benchmarking: Save as PDF in FM9 vs. FM8 (Art Campbell)
>
>   3. FM9 crashes non stop on Vista 64 bits [RESOLVED] (mathieu jacquet)
>
>   4. Re: FM9 crashes non stop on Vista 64 bits [RESOLVED] (Peter Gold)
>
>   5. FM9 bug: Hyperlinks in *IOR.fm don't work (Yves Barbion)
>
>   6. RE: FM9 crashes non stop on Vista 64 bits [RESOLVED]
>
>      (Combs, Richard)
>
>   7. FrameMaker 7.2 Compatiblity with Acrobat 9 (Fei Min Lorente)
>
>   8. RE: FrameMaker 7.2 Compatiblity with Acrobat 9 (Jeff Coatsworth)
>
>   9. RE: FrameMaker 7.2 Compatiblity with Acrobat 9 (Pinkham, Jim)
>
>  10. Converting Rows to Headers (Howard Rauch)
>
>  11. Re: Converting Rows to Headers (Art Campbell)
>
>  12. Re: Converting Rows to Headers (Stuart Rogers)
>
>  13. RE: Converting Rows to Headers (Diane Gaskill)
>
>  14. Re: Converting Rows to Headers (Writer)
>
>  15. "below" building block in X-Refs (Jon Harvey)
>
>  16. RE: "below" building block in X-Refs (Rick Quatro)
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>  17. RE: Converting Rows to Headers (Combs, Richard)
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>  18. Re: "below" building block in X-Refs (Peter Gold)
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>  19. RE: "below" building block in X-Refs (Fred Ridder)
>
>  20. Utilities for FM 8 (Joe Malin)
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>  21. Re: FM 9 books (Ray Saffin)
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>  22. Table Issues (George, Brenda (CAI))
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>  23. Re: Utilities for FM 8 (Art Campbell)
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>  24. Re: Utilities for FM 8 (Scott Prentice)
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>  25. Re: Utilities for FM 8 (Steve Rickaby)
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> Message: 1
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> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:00:57 +0100
>
> From: Yves Barbion <yves.barbion at gmail.com>
>
> Subject: Benchmarking: Save as PDF in FM9 vs. FM8
>
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
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> Hi group
>
>
>
> I've done the following test in FM9 and 8: save 74-page book as PDF.
> These
>
> are the results:
>
>
>
> FM9:
>
> Acrobat Distiller starts after: 1 min. 40 s
>
> PDF displayed in Acrobat after: 2 min. 59 s
>
>
>
> FM8:
>
> Acrobat Distiller starts after: 18 (!) s
>
> PDF displayed in Acrobat after: 1 min. 23 s
>
>
>
> I've tested this a couple of times and I got similar results.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have any idea why FM9 is so much slower?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yves Barbion
>
> www.scripto.nu
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> ------------------------------
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>
> Message: 2
>
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:05:57 -0500
>
> From: Art Campbell <art.campbell at gmail.com>
>
> Subject: Re: Benchmarking: Save as PDF in FM9 vs. FM8
>
> To: Yves Barbion <yves.barbion at gmail.com>
>
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
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>
>
> Because you're using SaveAs, which in FM 9 has it's own processes and
>
> job option switches.
>
>
>
> If you run each by printing to the Acrobat logical printer and select
>
> the same job options, I suspect the numbers will be comparable.
>
>
>
> Art Campbell
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> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Yves Barbion <yves.barbion at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi group
>
>>
>
>> I've done the following test in FM9 and 8: save 74-page book as PDF.
>> These
>
>> are the results:
>
>>
>
>> FM9:
>
>> Acrobat Distiller starts after: 1 min. 40 s
>
>> PDF displayed in Acrobat after: 2 min. 59 s
>
>>
>
>> FM8:
>
>> Acrobat Distiller starts after: 18 (!) s
>
>> PDF displayed in Acrobat after: 1 min. 23 s
>
>>
>
>> I've tested this a couple of times and I got similar results.
>
>>
>
>> Does anyone have any idea why FM9 is so much slower?
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Yves Barbion
>
>> www.scripto.nu
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> Message: 3
>
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:10:25 +0000
>
> From: mathieu jacquet <bobitch at hotmail.com>
>
> Subject: FM9 crashes non stop on Vista 64 bits [RESOLVED]
>
> To: <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
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>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> if ever you're experiencing similar problems, here is what the support
> replied:
>
>
>
> "Unfortunately, FrameMaker 9 is not certified to be supported on the
> 64-bit edition of Windows Vista. However, please find attached a
> technical note from our database. It will allow you to fix your problem.
> Please read http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/406/kb406893.html".
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Mathieu.
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
>
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:31:47 -0600
>
> From: Peter Gold <peter at knowhowpro.com>
>
> Subject: Re: FM9 crashes non stop on Vista 64 bits [RESOLVED]
>
> To: mathieu jacquet <bobitch at hotmail.com>
>
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>
> Message-ID:
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>
>
> Thanks for the pointer, Mathieu.
>
>
>
> Just reading all the maintenance in the technote is exhausting.
>
> Performing all the steps could become one's new career.
>
>
>
> Aside from Adobe building 64-bit Windows Vista compatibility into
>
> FrameMaker 9, developing and offering a couple of utilities that
>
> report some of the system information that needs to be collected. For
>
> example, checking the OS version and patch level, RAM, disk free
>
> space, listing files in %temp%, currently-running applications, VRAM,
>
> video-card driver, etc, and reporting the information with comments
>
> where appropriate, such as "These resources don't meet requirements:
>
> (list them)."
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Peter
>
> _______________________
>
> Peter Gold
>
> KnowHow ProServices
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:10 AM, mathieu jacquet <bobitch at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>
>> Hi all,
>
>>
>
>> if ever you're experiencing similar problems, here is what the support
> replied:
>
>>
>
>> "Unfortunately, FrameMaker 9 is not certified to be supported on the
> 64-bit edition of Windows Vista. However, please find attached a
> technical note from our database. It will allow you to fix your problem.
> Please read http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/406/kb406893.html".
>
>>
>
>> Cheers,
>
>>
>
>> Mathieu.
>
>>
>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>
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> Message: 5
>
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:14:09 +0100
>
> From: Yves Barbion <yves.barbion at gmail.com>
>
> Subject: FM9 bug: Hyperlinks in *IOR.fm don't work
>
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
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> Message-ID:
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>      <2d78e7071002110714x6b6d89caq3656d40993358a5b at mail.gmail.com>
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>
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> I'm using FM9 on Windows XP, SP3
>
>
>
> I have generated an index of references (imported graphics), but when I
>
> click on one of the hyperlinked entries, FM9 is unable to show me the
>
> graphic on the respective page. I do see that the tab of the respective
> file
>
> (chapter) becomes active, but the page itself is not "brought to front".
> To
>
> see the page, I have to minimize the IOR window.
>
>
>
> I get the same behavior in the various workspaces.
>
>
>
> Is this a known UI bug?
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Yves Barbion
>
> www.scripto.nu
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Message: 6
>
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:28:07 -0700
>
> From: "Combs, Richard" <richard.combs at Polycom.com>
>
> Subject: RE: FM9 crashes non stop on Vista 64 bits [RESOLVED]
>
> To: <peter at knowhowpro.com>
>
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>
> Message-ID:
>
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> <2D6EB362BFB0CC4A95CC3FC0C2F19F86016B56C9 at wstexch03.westminster.polycom.
> com>
>
>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="utf-8"
>
>
>
> Peter Gold wrote:
>
>
>
>> Just reading all the maintenance in the technote is exhausting.
>
>> Performing all the steps could become one's new career.
>
>
>
> I think it's a pretty good troubleshooting guide, with much of it
> applicable to troubleshooting any software problem, not specific to FM.
> And as with any troubleshooting/diagnostic procedure, you continue only
> until you've identified the problem. So hopefully, you never have to
> perform _all_ the steps. :-)
>
>
>
>> Aside from Adobe building 64-bit Windows Vista compatibility into
>
>> FrameMaker 9, developing and offering a couple of utilities that
>
>> report some of the system information that needs to be collected. For
>
>> example, checking the OS version and patch level, RAM, disk free
>
>> space, listing files in %temp%, currently-running applications, VRAM,
>
>> video-card driver, etc, and reporting the information with comments
>
>> where appropriate, such as "These resources don't meet requirements:
>
>> (list them)."
>
>
>
> Virtually everything on that list is available in the System Information
> utility that you can access from the About box of an MS Office
> application.
> Alternatively, you can use one of the bazillion freeware/shareware sys
> info/diagnostic utilities available. There's no need for Adobe to add
> yet another to the pile.
>
>
>
> This is standard information about your system that a support tech would
> probably ask you for and that you should know or know how to find.
>
>
>
> Richard G. Combs
>
> Senior Technical Writer
>
> Polycom, Inc.
>
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
>
> 303-223-5111
>
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> Message: 7
>
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:31:43 -0700
>
> From: "Fei Min Lorente" <FeiMin.Lorente at onsemi.com>
>
> Subject: FrameMaker 7.2 Compatiblity with Acrobat 9
>
> To: <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
>
> Message-ID:
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>      <F54BA5883027FF47897D4393B074EF7DC17633 at NAMAIL.ad.onsemi.com>
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>
>
> Sorry for the re-question, but I simply can't find the old thread.
>
>
>
> I remember someone recently asking about producing PDFs using Acrobat 9,
>
> but they were still using FrameMaker 7.2. I think the answer was that
>
> Acrobat 9 doesn't support FrameMaker 7.2, but that FM 7.2 might be able
>
> to produce PDFs anyway, just not through Save As. Can someone please
>
> refresh my memory?
>
>
>
> I'm currently using FM 7.2 on Windows XP and Acrobat 6.0 Pro. I'm
>
> thinking we have to upgrade Acrobat to 9 Pro because I have to do online
>
> reviews that way. We are using FinalDraft, but now that the company has
>
> forced us to use IE8, the reviewers are experiencing problems with
>
> FinalDraft. Looks like it's time to move on.
>
>
>
> Incidentally, if anyone has any other suggestions for doing online
>
> reviews of FrameMaker documents that doesn't involve every reviewer
>
> having a copy of FrameMaker, please let me know. We're okay buying the
>
> software to produce an online-reviewable document, but don't want to
>
> have to pay for the software for the reviewers.
>
>
>
> Most of them are structured documents, so I could export to XML, if
>
> that's any help.
>
>
>
> Fei Min
>
>
>
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> Fei Min Lorente
>
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>
> Medical Division
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> ------------------------------
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>
>
> Message: 8
>
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:45:30 -0500
>
> From: Jeff Coatsworth <jeff.coatsworth at jonassoftware.com>
>
> Subject: RE: FrameMaker 7.2 Compatiblity with Acrobat 9
>
> To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
>
> Message-ID:
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>      <0AE969C68D4AF4439600D9FA8FEDA02D052BBF1974 at exchange.gjonas.com>
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>
> For pulling shared PDF reviews back into the FM source docs, check out
> RJ Jacquez's blog posting of his demo.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min
> Lorente
>
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:32 AM
>
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>
> Subject: FrameMaker 7.2 Compatiblity with Acrobat 9
>
>
>
> Sorry for the re-question, but I simply can't find the old thread.
>
>
>
> I remember someone recently asking about producing PDFs using Acrobat 9,
> but they were still using FrameMaker 7.2. I think the answer was that
> Acrobat 9 doesn't support FrameMaker 7.2, but that FM 7.2 might be able
> to produce PDFs anyway, just not through Save As. Can someone please
> refresh my memory?
>
>
>
> I'm currently using FM 7.2 on Windows XP and Acrobat 6.0 Pro. I'm
> thinking we have to upgrade Acrobat to 9 Pro because I have to do online
> reviews that way. We are using FinalDraft, but now that the company has
> forced us to use IE8, the reviewers are experiencing problems with
> FinalDraft. Looks like it's time to move on.
>
>
>
> Incidentally, if anyone has any other suggestions for doing online
> reviews of FrameMaker documents that doesn't involve every reviewer
> having a copy of FrameMaker, please let me know. We're okay buying the
> software to produce an online-reviewable document, but don't want to
> have to pay for the software for the reviewers.
>
>
>
> Most of them are structured documents, so I could export to XML, if
> that's any help.
>
>
>
> Fei Min
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> Fei Min Lorente
>
> Senior Technical Communicator
>
> Medical Division
>
> ON Semiconductor
>
> feimin.lorente at onsemi.com
>
> +1 519 884 9696 ext 2297 | office
>
> +1 519 831 4931 | mobile
>
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>
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> Message: 9
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> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:30:40 -0600
>
> From: "Pinkham, Jim" <Jim.Pinkham at voith.com>
>
> Subject: RE: FrameMaker 7.2 Compatiblity with Acrobat 9
>
> To: "Jeff Coatsworth" <jeff.coatsworth at jonassoftware.com>,
>
>      <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
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> FWIW, Jeff, we've been using 7.1 with Acrobat 9 for months with no
>
> issues.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
>
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
>
> Coatsworth
>
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 9:46 AM
>
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>
> Subject: RE: FrameMaker 7.2 Compatiblity with Acrobat 9
>
>
>
> For pulling shared PDF reviews back into the FM source docs, check out
>
> RJ Jacquez's blog posting of his demo.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
>
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min
>
> Lorente
>
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:32 AM
>
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>
> Subject: FrameMaker 7.2 Compatiblity with Acrobat 9
>
>
>
> Sorry for the re-question, but I simply can't find the old thread.
>
>
>
> I remember someone recently asking about producing PDFs using Acrobat 9,
>
> but they were still using FrameMaker 7.2. I think the answer was that
>
> Acrobat 9 doesn't support FrameMaker 7.2, but that FM 7.2 might be able
>
> to produce PDFs anyway, just not through Save As. Can someone please
>
> refresh my memory?
>
>
>
> I'm currently using FM 7.2 on Windows XP and Acrobat 6.0 Pro. I'm
>
> thinking we have to upgrade Acrobat to 9 Pro because I have to do online
>
> reviews that way. We are using FinalDraft, but now that the company has
>
> forced us to use IE8, the reviewers are experiencing problems with
>
> FinalDraft. Looks like it's time to move on.
>
>
>
> Incidentally, if anyone has any other suggestions for doing online
>
> reviews of FrameMaker documents that doesn't involve every reviewer
>
> having a copy of FrameMaker, please let me know. We're okay buying the
>
> software to produce an online-reviewable document, but don't want to
>
> have to pay for the software for the reviewers.
>
>
>
> Most of them are structured documents, so I could export to XML, if
>
> that's any help.
>
>
>
> Fei Min
>
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:58:18 -0800 (PST)
>
> From: Howard Rauch <techtransfer at sbcglobal.net>
>
> Subject: Converting Rows to Headers
>
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>
> Message-ID: <574480.84092.qm at web82001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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>
>
> Frame 7.0 (my clients have not?caught up to FM9 yet)
>
> Windows XP Pro
>
>
>
> I have a number of multipage tables?for which I need to convert the
> first two table body rows (conventional) to header rows. So far the only
> method I've found that works is to set up a new blank table?having two
> header rows?and then copy the original table into the new?one. It seems
> to me that with?its power, FM could easily convert?body rows into header
> rows. Am I missing something? I've checked Help and found it to be of no
> help in this regard.
>
>
>
> Howard Rauch
>
> ?
>
> Technology Transfer, Inc.
>
> "Linking Creators and Users of Technology"
>
> 933 North 18th Street
>
> Manitowoc WI 54220
>
> Office: 920-682-1528
>
> Cell: 920-629-1782
>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Message: 11
>
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:02:03 -0500
>
> From: Art Campbell <art.campbell at gmail.com>
>
> Subject: Re: Converting Rows to Headers
>
> To: Howard Rauch <techtransfer at sbcglobal.net>
>
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>
> Message-ID:
>
>      <c7d9dd601002110902qc475a31ib9b2ff660fd287e5 at mail.gmail.com>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>
>
> You're missing Rick Quatro's TableCleaner plug in, a great tool that
>
> does this conversion as well as a host of other table-related stuff.
>
> It's a critical piece of my tool kit...
>
>
>
> http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/tablecleaner/index.htm
>
>
>
> If you have a herd of these to do, Rick could probably whip up a
>
> FrameScript that would do this at the book or directory level...
>
>
>
> Art
>
>
>
> Art Campbell
>
>               art.campbell at gmail.com
>
>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
>
> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>
>                                                      No disclaimers
> apply.
>
>                                                               DoD 358
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Howard Rauch
>
> <techtransfer at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> Frame 7.0 (my clients have not?caught up to FM9 yet)
>
>> Windows XP Pro
>
>>
>
>> I have a number of multipage tables?for which I need to convert the
>> first
> two table body rows (conventional) to header rows. So far the only
> method I've found that works is to set up a new blank table?having two
> header rows?and then copy the original table into the new?one. It seems
> to me that with?its power, FM could easily convert?body rows into header
> rows. Am I missing something? I've checked Help and found it to be of no
> help in this regard.
>
>>
>
>> Howard Rauch
>
>>
>
>> Technology Transfer, Inc.
>
>> "Linking Creators and Users of Technology"
>
>> 933 North 18th Street
>
>> Manitowoc WI 54220
>
>> Office: 920-682-1528
>
>> Cell: 920-629-1782
>
>> ????????920-629-0080
>
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>
>>
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>
>
> Message: 12
>
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:09:10 -0500
>
> From: Stuart Rogers <srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com>
>
> Subject: Re: Converting Rows to Headers
>
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com, "techtransfer at sbcglobal.net >>
>
>      Howard Rauch"     <techtransfer at sbcglobal.net>
>
> Message-ID: <4B7439B6.2060006 at phoenix-geophysics.com>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>
>
> On 11/02/2010 11:58 AM, Howard Rauch wrote:
>
>> Frame 7.0 (my clients have not caught up to FM9 yet) Windows XP Pro
>
>>
>
>> I have a number of multipage tables for which I need to convert the
>
>> first two table body rows (conventional) to header rows. So far the
>
>> only method I've found that works is to set up a new blank table
>
>> having two header rows and then copy the original table into the new
>
>> one. It seems to me that with its power, FM could easily convert body
>
>> rows into header rows. Am I missing something? I've checked Help and
>
>> found it to be of no help in this regard.
>
>>
>
>
>
> Table > Add Rows or Columns
>
>
>
> Add 2 rows To Heading
>
>
>
> Cut your first two body rows (Remove Cells from Table) and Paste them
>
> into the Heading rows (Replace Current Rows).  You may have to apply pgf
>
>
> tags to the Heading cells after this operation.
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
>
>
> --
>
> Stuart Rogers
>
> Technical Communicator
>
> Phoenix Geophysics Limited
>
> Toronto, ON, Canada
>
> +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
>
>
>
> srogers phoenix-geophysics com
>
>
>
> "I believe that every human has a finite number of heart-beats. I don't
>
> intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises."
>
>
>
> Buzz Aldrin (1930 - )
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Message: 13
>
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:14:09 -0800
>
> From: "Diane Gaskill" <dgcaller at earthlink.net>
>
> Subject: RE: Converting Rows to Headers
>
> To: "Howard Rauch" <techtransfer at sbcglobal.net>,
>
>      <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
>
> Message-ID: <FAEHIOAEFNBLLOLBIBCFAEAICHAA.dgcaller at earthlink.net>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>
> There is a much faster and easier way to do what you are doing.  Use the
>
> tablecleaner plugin from Rick Quatro.  Works like a champ, believe me.
>
> We're converting some legacy docs from mewierd to structured FM.  I
> cleaned
>
> up 100 tables in a 400 page manual, (including changing body rows to
> heading
>
> rows in about 30 seconds.  Cleans up all the text problems too.
> However, it
>
> doesn't take the text string that word uses for table headings and move
> it
>
> into the table title field in an FM table.  (Hey, Rick, are you
> listening?
>
> :-)
>
> Not sure of the price now, but I think I paid $60.  ROI: 30 seconds.  I
>
> cannot imagine how long it would have taken me to do all that manually.
>
>
>
> Diane Gaskill
>
> Hitachi Data systems
>
> ============================
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
>
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Howard Rauch
>
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 8:58 AM
>
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>
> Subject: Converting Rows to Headers
>
>
>
>
>
> Frame 7.0 (my clients have not?caught up to FM9 yet)
>
> Windows XP Pro
>
>
>
> I have a number of multipage tables?for which I need to convert the
> first
>
> two table body rows (conventional) to header rows. So far the only
> method
>
> I've found that works is to set up a new blank table?having two header
>
> rows?and then copy the original table into the new?one. It seems to me
> that
>
> with?its power, FM could easily convert?body rows into header rows. Am I
>
> missing something? I've checked Help and found it to be of no help in
> this
>
> regard.
>
>
>
> Howard Rauch
>
> ?
>
> Technology Transfer, Inc.
>
> "Linking Creators and Users of Technology"
>
> 933 North 18th Street
>
> Manitowoc WI 54220
>
> Office: 920-682-1528
>
> Cell: 920-629-1782
>
> ????????920-629-0080
>
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>
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>
>
> Message: 14
>
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:41:01 -0800 (PST)
>
> From: Writer <generic668 at yahoo.ca>
>
> Subject: Re: Converting Rows to Headers
>
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com, Howard Rauch
>
>      <techtransfer at sbcglobal.net>
>
> Message-ID: <579811.36385.qm at web88101.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>
>
> I have found that tables have never been FM's strong point. What I find
> especially annoying is the inability to split rows across pages.
>
>
>
> Nadine
>
>
>
>> It seems to
>
>> me that with?its power, FM could easily convert?body rows
>
>> into header rows. Am I missing something? I've checked Help
>
>> and found it to be of no help in this regard.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Message: 15
>
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:48:45 -0500
>
> From: "Jon Harvey" <JHarvey at cambridgesoft.com>
>
> Subject: "below" building block in X-Refs
>
> To: "FrameUsers List" <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
>
> Message-ID:
>
>      <454AE9BB48EE394BB56B1719E53E214D0B21638A at exchange2.camsoft.com>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>
> (FM 9.0, XP Pro)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Everyone,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm trying to figure out a way to create an X-Ref format that says "See
>
> 'Dogs' {or whatever} below" if the X-Ref and the target 'Dogs' are both
>
> on the same page. I'd like FM to recognize that they are on the same
>
> page so that, if 'Dogs' moves to the next page, the X-Ref automatically
>
> adjusts to read "See 'Dogs' on page xx".  Is there any way to do this
>
> without creating two X-Ref style and manually changing from one to the
>
> other?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jon Harvey
>
>
>
> Manager, Desktop & Enterprise Documentation
>
>
>
> CambridgeSoft Corporation
>
>
>
> 100 CambridgePark Drive
>
>
>
> Cambridge, MA 02140
>
>
>
> (617) 588-9354
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Message: 16
>
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:53:12 -0500
>
> From: "Rick Quatro" <rick at rickquatro.com>
>
> Subject: RE: "below" building block in X-Refs
>
> To: "'Jon Harvey'" <JHarvey at cambridgesoft.com>, "'FrameUsers List'"
>
>      <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
>
> Message-ID: <00af01caab43$16396860$42ac3920$@com>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>
> Hi Jon,
>
>
>
> There is no way to do this with stock FrameMaker, but this could be done
>
> with a FrameScript script. If you are interested in a FrameScript
> solution,
>
> please contact me offlist. Thanks.
>
>
>
> Rick Quatro
>
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>
> 585-659-8267
>
> rick at frameexpert.com
>
>
>
> *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
>
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jon Harvey
>
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:49 PM
>
> To: FrameUsers List
>
> Subject: "below" building block in X-Refs
>
>
>
> (FM 9.0, XP Pro)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Everyone,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm trying to figure out a way to create an X-Ref format that says "See
>
> 'Dogs' {or whatever} below" if the X-Ref and the target 'Dogs' are both
>
> on the same page. I'd like FM to recognize that they are on the same
>
> page so that, if 'Dogs' moves to the next page, the X-Ref automatically
>
> adjusts to read "See 'Dogs' on page xx".  Is there any way to do this
>
> without creating two X-Ref style and manually changing from one to the
>
> other?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jon Harvey
>
>
>
> Manager, Desktop & Enterprise Documentation
>
>
>
> CambridgeSoft Corporation
>
>
>
> 100 CambridgePark Drive
>
>
>
> Cambridge, MA 02140
>
>
>
> (617) 588-9354
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
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>
>
> Message: 17
>
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:00:45 -0700
>
> From: "Combs, Richard" <richard.combs at Polycom.com>
>
> Subject: RE: Converting Rows to Headers
>
> To: "Howard Rauch" <techtransfer at sbcglobal.net>,
>
>      <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
>
> Message-ID:
>
>
> <2D6EB362BFB0CC4A95CC3FC0C2F19F86016B56CA at wstexch03.westminster.polycom.
> com>
>
>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>
> Howard Rauch wrote:
>
>
>
>> I have a number of multipage tables?for which I need to convert the
>> first
>
>> two table body rows (conventional) to header rows. So far the only
>> method
>
>> I've found that works is to set up a new blank table?having two header
>
>> rows?and then copy the original table into the new?one. It seems to me
> that
>
>> with?its power, FM could easily convert?body rows into header rows. Am
>
>> I
>
>> missing something? I've checked Help and found it to be of no help in
>> this
>
>> regard.
>
>
>
> Just to reinforce the message you've been getting, I'll add another
> enthusiastic endorsement of Rick Quatro's TableCleaner. My ROI period
> was longer than Diane's -- maybe as much as half an hour. But even
> without a big Word-to-FM conversion project (for which it's
> indispensable), the argument for TableCleaner is compelling.
>
>
>
> FWIW, I disagree with Nadine. I generally like FM's table functionality
> (better than Word's), and _not_ splitting rows across pages is one of
> the things I really like. :-)
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard G. Combs
>
> Senior Technical Writer
>
> Polycom, Inc.
>
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
>
> 303-223-5111
>
> ------
>
> rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
>
> 303-777-0436
>
> ------
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Message: 18
>
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:06:24 -0600
>
> From: Peter Gold <peter at knowhowpro.com>
>
> Subject: Re: "below" building block in X-Refs
>
> To: Jon Harvey <JHarvey at cambridgesoft.com>, rick at frameexpert.com
>
> Cc: FrameUsers List <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
>
> Message-ID:
>
>      <905e72991002111006p66224221r763534c58d7144b1 at mail.gmail.com>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>
>
> As Rick said, not in stock FrameMaker, nor in stock InDesign CS4 the
>
> first release with built-in cross-references. There is a commercial
>
> InDesign cross-references plug-in from dtptools.com that offers "this
>
> page," "opposite page," "next page," and some other options.
>
>
>
> I'm not suggesting that you drop FrameMaker for InDesign for this one
>
> feature. But, I thought Rick might get some ideas from the plug-in's
>
> info page that could develop into a FrameMaker plug-in.
>
>
>
> HTH
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Peter
>
> _______________________
>
> Peter Gold
>
> KnowHow ProServices
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Jon Harvey <JHarvey at cambridgesoft.com>
> wrote:
>
>> (FM 9.0, XP Pro)
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Everyone,
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> I'm trying to figure out a way to create an X-Ref format that says
>> "See
>
>> 'Dogs' {or whatever} below" if the X-Ref and the target 'Dogs' are
>> both
>
>> on the same page. I'd like FM to recognize that they are on the same
>
>> page so that, if 'Dogs' moves to the next page, the X-Ref
>> automatically
>
>> adjusts to read "See 'Dogs' on page xx". ?Is there any way to do this
>
>> without creating two X-Ref style and manually changing from one to the
>
>> other?
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Jon Harvey
>
>>
>
>> Manager, Desktop & Enterprise Documentation
>
>>
>
>> CambridgeSoft Corporation
>
>>
>
>> 100 CambridgePark Drive
>
>>
>
>> Cambridge, MA 02140
>
>>
>
>> (617) 588-9354
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> _______________________________________________
>
>>
>
>>
>
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> ------------------------------
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>
>
> Message: 19
>
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:19:47 -0500
>
> From: Fred Ridder <docudoc at hotmail.com>
>
> Subject: RE: "below" building block in X-Refs
>
> To: <jharvey at cambridgesoft.com>, <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
>
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> Jon Harvey wrote:
>
>
>
>> I'm trying to figure out a way to create an X-Ref format that says
>> "See
>
>> 'Dogs' {or whatever} below" if the X-Ref and the target 'Dogs' are
>> both
>
>> on the same page. I'd like FM to recognize that they are on the same
>
>> page so that, if 'Dogs' moves to the next page, the X-Ref
>> automatically
>
>> adjusts to read "See 'Dogs' on page xx". Is there any way to do this
>
>> without creating two X-Ref style and manually changing from one to the
>
>> other?
>
>
>
>
>
> Do you really feel that this adds significant value to your docs? At
> each of the last four companies I've worked for, the trend was to reduce
> or eliminate this kind of "geographic" cue. But maybe that would have
> been different if numbered headings, captions, and table titles hadn't
> been the house style in each case...
>
>
>
> -Fred Ridder
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Message: 20
>
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:54:51 -0800
>
> From: Joe Malin <jmalin at jmalin.com>
>
> Subject: Utilities for FM 8
>
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
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>
> Hi!
>
>
>
> After a 3-year hiatus I am trying to work with FM 8 (unstructured) again
> for
>
> a non-work project. Having designed a lot of my own templates and
> documents,
>
> I know a *lot* about what's built in to FM 8, but I've forgotten all the
>
> utilities I once used such as Character Tools, Paragraph Tools, etc.
>
>
>
> I'm looking for tools that will automatically copy formats, layouts,
> master
>
> pages, reference pages, etc. from an existing document to a new one. Is
>
> there a site somewhere that has a list of sources?
>
>
>
> Joe Malin
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Message: 21
>
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:01:39 +0000
>
> From: Ray Saffin <rsaffin at serena.com>
>
> Subject: Re: FM 9 books
>
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
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>
>
> In TCS2 there is a User Guide PDF (UserGuide.pdf) for FrameMaker 9 that
> gets
>
> installed in:
>
>
>
> C:\Program Files\Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2\Adobe FrameMaker
>
> 9\Documents
>
>
>
> This may be a good starting point.
>
>
>
>
>
>> Message: 3
>
>> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:41:33 -0700
>
>> From: "Linda G. Gallagher" <lindag at techcomplus.com>
>
>> Subject: FM 9 books
>
>> To: <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
>
>> Message-ID: <001801caaaaa$94af9e60$6400000a at LindaDellDec06>
>
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>>
>
>> Framers,
>
>>
>
>> Does anyone know of any FM 9 books, aside from the Classroom in a
> Book?
>
>> It's
>
>> the only thing I've found that is just FM 9. (I know about Icon
>> Logic's
> TCS
>
>> 2 book, but that does not fit my need.)
>
>>
>
>> Has anyone used the Classroom in a Book for FM 9? I just requested a
> review
>
>> copy, but I'm not sure when I'll receive it. I'd like to know what
>> you've
>
>> thought of it for teaching FM 9.
>
>>
>
>> Thanks!
>
>>
>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>> Linda G. Gallagher
>
>> TechCom Plus, LLC
>
>> lindag at techcomplus dot com
>
>> www.techcomplus.com
>
>> 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
>
>> User guides, online help, FrameMaker and
>
>> WebWorks ePublisher templates
>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>> RMIMA Membership Manager
>
>> www.RMIMA.org
>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> ------------------------------
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>>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Message: 22
>
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:20:17 -0500
>
> From: "George, Brenda (CAI)" <BGeorge at federatedinv.com>
>
> Subject: Table Issues
>
> To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
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>
>
> I am importing an XML file into Structured FrameMaker that contains a
> table.
> The table is being imported into a 2-column text box. The table needs to
> stretch across both columns within the text box. When I import the table
> it is stretching beyond the text box. How do I format the table so that
> it imports across both columns, but does not stretch beyond the text
> box?
>
>
>
> Brenda George
>
> Desk: (724) 720-8491
>
> bgeorge at federatedinv.com
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> Message: 23
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> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:28:24 -0500
>
> From: Art Campbell <art.campbell at gmail.com>
>
> Subject: Re: Utilities for FM 8
>
> To: Joe Malin <jmalin at jmalin.com>
>
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
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> Message-ID:
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>
>
> You can use CleanImport, a plug-in to purge the target doc's catalogs
>
> and then to import the new settings from your source.
>
>
>
> If you don't care about cleaning out the existing entries, just use
>
> File > Import Formats in your target. This is additive, so any
>
> existing tags / variables / settings will remain in place. If the
>
> source file has the same tag / variable names, the new settings will
>
> be imported.
>
>
>
> Art Campbell
>
>               art.campbell at gmail.com
>
>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
>
> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>
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>                                                               DoD 358
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Joe Malin <jmalin at jmalin.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>
>>
>
>> After a 3-year hiatus I am trying to work with FM 8 (unstructured)
>> again
> for
>
>> a non-work project. Having designed a lot of my own templates and
> documents,
>
>> I know a *lot* about what's built in to FM 8, but I've forgotten all
>> the
>
>> utilities I once used such as Character Tools, Paragraph Tools, etc.
>
>>
>
>> I'm looking for tools that will automatically copy formats, layouts,
> master
>
>> pages, reference pages, etc. from an existing document to a new one.
>> Is
>
>> there a site somewhere that has a list of sources?
>
>>
>
>> Joe Malin
>
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> Message: 24
>
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:48:21 -0800
>
> From: Scott Prentice <sp at leximation.com>
>
> Subject: Re: Utilities for FM 8
>
> To: Joe Malin <jmalin at jmalin.com>
>
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
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> Message-ID: <4B749745.8000105 at leximation.com>
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>
>
> My ToolSearch database lists all of the FM plugins that I'm aware of
>
> (plus other things) ..
>
>
>
>    http://leximation.com/toolsearch/
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> ...scott
>
>
>
> Scott Prentice
>
> Leximation, Inc.
>
> www.leximation.com
>
> +1.415.485.1892
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Malin wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>
>>
>
>> After a 3-year hiatus I am trying to work with FM 8 (unstructured)
>> again
> for
>
>> a non-work project. Having designed a lot of my own templates and
> documents,
>
>> I know a *lot* about what's built in to FM 8, but I've forgotten all
>> the
>
>> utilities I once used such as Character Tools, Paragraph Tools, etc.
>
>>
>
>> I'm looking for tools that will automatically copy formats, layouts,
> master
>
>> pages, reference pages, etc. from an existing document to a new one.
>> Is
>
>> there a site somewhere that has a list of sources?
>
>>
>
>> Joe Malin
>
>>
>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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>
>
> Message: 25
>
> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:58:50 +0000
>
> From: Steve Rickaby <srickaby at wordmongers.demon.co.uk>
>
> Subject: Re: Utilities for FM 8
>
> To: Joe Malin <jmalin at jmalin.com>, framers at lists.frameusers.com
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> At 19:54 -0800 10/2/10, Joe Malin wrote:
>
>
>
>>After a 3-year hiatus I am trying to work with FM 8 (unstructured)
>>again
> for
>
>>a non-work project. Having designed a lot of my own templates and
> documents,
>
>>I know a *lot* about what's built in to FM 8, but I've forgotten all
>>the
>
>>utilities I once used such as Character Tools, Paragraph Tools, etc.
>
>
>
> In addition to the advice of others, the site you're specifically
> looking for is probably <http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com>.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Steve
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