Cross-reference formatting, Part 2

[Jenny Greenleaf]

 Unfortunately, the workaround doesn't solve my problem. The character format is only applied to a single word in the middle of a few cross references. 

What I don't understand is why the cross reference is correct when I apply it, but Frame has to change it on update. 

Oh well. I certainly know where they all are now. 

Jenny


On Jan 29, 2010, at 12:00 AM, Baruch Brodersen wrote:

> On Dec. 8 2008 Shlomo Perets addressed this issue:
> "When the cross-reference format uses multiple character formats, the book's Generate/Update function ignores the first one.
> (This applies to FM5 through FM8).
> "Workaround: Create a single character format that has all the properties you need, and modify the cross-reference format accordingly."
> The first character format is the one applied to the text itself. The second is found in the cross-reference format. When you update, the first character format (small caps) is removed.
> Baruch Brodersen
> 
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 2:24 AM, Jenny Greenleaf <alicemerry at comcast.net> wrote:
> Interesting idea, Matt,
> 
> I set up a simple test, and the answer is no, it doesn't hold the format.
> 
> I changed one of the link formats to have no character formatting at all. Applied the cross-reference. Term was happily in small caps. Updated the book, and WHAM, it's back to normal case.
> 
> I also tried taking the variable out and just setting the term in small caps in the referenced text. In this case, the small caps didn't appear in the cross-reference.
> 
> Next, I used a small caps character style on the text. It made a small-caps cross-reference, but then lost the formatting on an update.
> 
> Oh well, at least i know about it now and can go find and fix, then PDF quickly. I also had to turn off automatic updating, as it would hose the formats just on printing to PDF.
> 
> 
> Jenny
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Matt Sullivan wrote:
> 
> > If I understand Jenny's question, the Xref is losing the formatting provided
> > in the variable.
> >
> > If that's the case, I doubt you'll be able to get the xref formatting you're
> > looking for. The xref only has the option of formatting the <$paratext>, not
> > specific parts of the paratext.
> >
> > If you remove character formatting (like <Emphasis>) from the xref format,
> > does it hold the formatting from the variable?
> >
> >
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Spectrum Writing
> > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:22 PM
> > To: 'Jenny Greenleaf'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > Subject: RE: Cross-reference formatting, Part 2
> >
> > As Alan state:
> >
> > The application of styles used is sequential, so one style is used until it
> > is replaced by another, until the end of the cross reference when it returns
> > the paragraph default. That should mean that you should be able to use the
> > Default setting building block, then the small caps style building block,
> > then default again.
> >
> > for example, for some of x-refs that I only want part to appear in Blue:
> >
> > See <Link>Figure <$paranumonly> <Default ¶ Font> below.<Default ¶ Font>
> >
> > So only the word Figure and its number appear in blue. The word "below" does
> > not.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > TVB
> >
> >
> >
> > Tammy Van Boening
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> > Spectrum Writing, LLC
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Greenleaf
> > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:45 PM
> > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > Subject: Cross-reference formatting, Part 2
> >
> > OK, maybe I'm not crazy.  I'm completely missing something, or maybe this is
> > a Frame 9 bug.
> >
> > I have several cross-references in my document that reference paragraphs
> > (e.g., chapter titles, headings). These paragraphs contain variables that
> > are set in small caps.
> >
> > When I apply the cross-reference, it's fine. Everything is formatted
> > correctly.
> >
> > When I generate/update the book, the words that are supposed to be in small
> > caps are no longer in small caps.
> >
> > I find the references that are supposed to have small caps and re-apply the
> > cross-reference. All is fine....until I generate the book again. I can watch
> > the font change as soon as I click the generate icon. Right in front of my
> > eyes.
> >
> > Ideas? Any way to make this stop? It's terribly annoying, especially during
> > the endgame. My deadline is tomorrow.
> >
> > Jenny
> >
> >
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