Conref, conditional text, and filtering by attribute

[Roger Shuttleworth]

Hi Rick

Thanks for your reply. I've used Russ's plugins before, including InsetPlus and Sourcerer (now AXCM). I'll give AXCM a whirl and see if it will do what I need.

I second your recommendation of Russ's plugins. The Node Wizard of InsetPlus has saved me untold hours of work.

Roger

Roger Shuttleworth
Technical Documentation
AV-BASE Systems Inc.
1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
London, Ontario
N5V 3S4
Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330
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From: Rick Quatro [mailto:rick at rickquatro.com]
To: 'Roger Shuttleworth' [mailto:rshuttleworth at avbasesystems.com], framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Wed, 19 May 2010 09:09:24 -0400
Subject: RE: Conref, conditional text, and filtering by attribute

Hi Roger,
  
  You should check out a couple of free plugins from West Street Consulting:
  InsetPlus and AXCM. AXCM allows you to do attribute filtering and it may
  address the problems you are having with stock FrameMaker. Don't let the
  price scare you away; all of Russ's plugins are top quality, including the
  free plugins. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.
  Thank you very much.
  
  Rick Quatro
  Carmen Publishing Inc.
  585-659-8267
  rick at frameexpert.com
  
  *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com
  
  
  
  -----Original Message-----
  From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
  [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Roger
  Shuttleworth
  Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 11:33 AM
  To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
  Subject: Conref, conditional text, and filtering by attribute
  
  Hello All
  
  FM 9.0 p250 (structured), DITA, Windows XP SP3.
  
  I'm looking at conditionalizing text that contains content for a training
  guide as well as a user guide. My document is a container file that contains
  topics referenced by conref in the usual DITA way. The training guide is a
  small subset of the larger document, and that subset exists within
  referenced topics. For example, I have a conreffed <task> and want to filter
  out the <context>, <info>, <stepresult> elements, and so on.
  
  I'm familiar with conditional text, not so familiar with filtering by
  attribute.
  
  So far I've tried the following permutations:
  
  1. Apply two conditions, Training and NotTraining, to the appropriate
  elements. The problem with this is that anything that is not tagged is IN,
  so I have to tag everything in order to eliminate it from the training
  guide. Is there a simpler way than that?
  
  As I understand it, I should be able to apply a condition to parts of a doc,
  then reference it as an inset/conref, and do the show/hide routine in the
  container document - correct?
  
  2. Using filtering by attribute... This is weird. I have a container
  document with a conreffed <task>. I tag the reference with <task
  audience="Training">, and apply a filter audience="Training". Everything
  stays put, as expected. But if I tag the contained <context
  audience="NotTraining" and apply the same filter, it filters out the whole
  <task>. I expected it just to filter out the <context>.
  
  I've tried other things, but my brain hurts now and I can't remember.
  
  So my bottom-line question is: What is the best way to obtain a small subset
  of a document?
  
  Thanks.
  
  Roger
  
   
  Roger Shuttleworth
  Technical Documentation
  AV-BASE Systems Inc.
  1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
  London, Ontario
  N5V 3S4
  Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330