Error when importing Visio objects to FM 7.2

Fred Ridder docudoc at hotmail.com
Thu Aug 11 13:24:36 PDT 2011


I just wanted to amplify on a couple of things Art said in his reply.
 
First, it is generally a bad idea to use OLE linking even for applications and file formats that are officially supported (which does not include Visio). Yes, there are some people who have been using it successfully. But when it breaks, it leaves you with little recourse because there is no separate source file for the embedded object.
 
Second, using the import by reference method that Art recommends (and which the majority of FrameMaker users utilize) gives you the advantage of not having to re-import the figure if/when you change it. As long as the revised figure has the same name and is located in the same directory relative to the FM file, the image in the Frame file will update automatically when the source file is updated. If the size was changed in the update, you may have to tweak the object properties a bit, but that's the only gotcha.
 
Third, even if you choose not to use the import by reference method, you'd still be well advised to use something other than a raster image file format ("device independent bitmap", TIFF, GIF, PNG, etc.) for the graphic. If you use a vector graphic format (WMF, EMF, PS, PDF) you should get much better results because you are dealing with a fully scalable graphic rather than a fixed-resolution image. But if you *must* use a raster (bitmap) format for some reason, avoid JPG for anything other than *photographic* images; because it is a lossy format that uses an area-based image compression algorithm, it inherently degrades line art or any figure that includes text characters.
 
-Fred Ridder  
 

> From: art.campbell at gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 09:32:22 -0400
> Subject: Re: Error when importing Visio objects to FM 7.2
> To: vidiraj at yahoo.com
> CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> Yeah, people have been seeing that message for several years.
> 
> This is a result of Microsoft's initial faulty OLE implementation,
> compounded by the re-write of OLE that they released in XP SP3, which
> totally broke the Adobe OLE handling. Bottom line is it didn't work
> years ago, it still doesn't work (especially if you're trying to make
> do with FM 7 which has the antique OLE handling code embedded), and it
> isn't going to work with your mix of software.
> 
> Best bet is to SaveAs from Visio to PDF or another graphic format and
> import the graphics by Reference -- not copying them in.
> 
> OLE does seem to be working with W7 and FM10... but it's not a
> technology that most people would have at the top of their "Reliable"
> list.
> 
> Cheers,
> Art
> 
> 
> Art Campbell
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> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Vidhya Dharmarajan <vidiraj at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Every time I try to import a Visio diagram(using File->import->object) into
> > FM7.2(Unstructured), I am unable to save the file.
> > It throws the error:
> >
> > "An internal error occurred while writing imported graphics in this
> > document. The file has been saved, but has lost some image data.
> > Please report this error to Adobe TechnicalSupport."
> >
> > Although the error message says the file has been saved, it doesn't really
> > save the file.
> > The workaround I use now is to copy the Visio diagram and paste it as a
> > "device independent bitmap" and that works. Ideally, we would like to have
> > editable Visio embedded in the FM document so any future changes to the
> > diagram can be made directly into the document (rather than changing it in
> > the graphics folder and again pasting it as device independent bitmap.)
> > Any inputs?
> > Thanks
> > Vidhya
> >
> >
> >
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