FW: Responses to Can't get a pdf file from FM 10

Sun Aug 14 17:59:16 PDT 2011

Thanks Art, this makes sense ... and I am not in a position to do much
testing here. All my use of FM is for lower-bar projects, so to speak.

Best regards,
Elchanan 

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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 5:11 PM
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Subject: Fwd: FW: Responses to Can't get a pdf file from FM 10

Well, yes and no.

On friend's systems and systems that don't do publishing, I've played with a
number of the free products, and most of them definitely do produce usable
PDFs.

But if you up the ante a bit and start looking at using PDFs in professional
situations where you're interested in commenting, online reviews, sharing
data from a common server and multiple users, or going to commercial,
professional printers where font handling, separations and printing tools
come into play.... I haven't really seen any non-Adobe products that gave me
a warm and fuzzy feeling that there wouldn't be something lacking somewhere
critical.

So it probably depends on where you'd set the bar and what you need to do
with the PDF.

Art Campbell
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On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 6:38 PM, VLM TechSubs
<TechSubs at vibrantlivingministries.org> wrote:
> Thanks Art, I appreciate your response. I feel curious ... have you 
> seriously tried to work on a day-in, day-out basis with any of these 
> other products? I'm not in an environment where I would stress them in 
> such a way, so I cannot respond from my own experience. However, my 
> reading on the most recent releases of some of these products (Nuance 
> and Nitro in particular) at least suggests that they are rivaling and 
> even surpassing Acrobat itself these days.
>
> Best,
> Elchanan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campbell at gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 3:21 PM
> To: VLM TechSubs
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: FW: Responses to Can't get a pdf file from FM 10
>
> My $.02 would be because Adobe 1.) Builds features into its PDF 
> generators that no one else does, that allow expanded PDF file 
> capability and 2.) Frame and Acrobat can be pretty tightly integrated; 
> no other PDF tools let you do as much -- for instance, moving comments 
> back and forth during an edit cycle.
>
> So long run if you use the tools every day and for high end work...
> Acrobat tends to give you mroe bang for the buck.
>
> Art
>
>
> Art Campbell
>                art.campbell at gmail.com
>   "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 
> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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apply.
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>
> I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 3:18 PM, VLM TechSubs 
> <TechSubs at vibrantlivingministries.org> wrote:
>> I don't mean to seem disrespectful toward anyone, but with 
>> alternatives available, why are people seemingly so committed to 
>> "getting Acrobat to work"? Why not just use a different tool that 
>> DOES work, such as Nitro, Nuance's PDF Creator, a couple of free
variants, etc.
>>
>> Or is this inquiry fatally flawed for some reason I am missing?
>>
>> Best to all,
>> Elchanan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
>> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike 
>> Wickham
>> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 1:56 PM
>> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: Responses to Can't get a pdf file from FM 10
>>
>> Two wild stabs at your problem:
>>
>> 1. I recall a time when I was getting no PDF generation. It turned 
>> out that in File> Preferences> General, I had Cross-Platform File 
>> Naming set to Macintosh on a Windows computer, and my file name was 
>> one character too long for the Mac 31-character (or whatever) limit. 
>> FM actually let me go through something like four dialog boxes toward 
>> creating the PDF, but gave me no clue while it was failing.
>>
>> 2. I also had problems with Acrobat X on Windows 7 64-bit. I was 
>> getting no PDFs. It turned out that Acrobat updates, both 10.0.1 and
>> 10.0.2 were trashing the port setting for the Adobe PDF printer and
> setting it to COM1:!
>> It was necessary to delete Adobe PDF printer and do a repair install 
>> to fix the issue.
>>
>> Mike Wickham
>>
>> On 8/13/2011 3:16 PM, Cal Callahan wrote:
>>> I'm using Windows 7 and Acrobat Pro. I'm not at work right now, so 
>>> can't check how much RAM & free disk space I have, but I'm sure 
>>> there's plenty.
>>> I tried print to file, print to PDF, save as PDF, print to pdf Cute 
>>> Writer (?), create pdf from Acrobat Pro, and probably some others I 
>>> don't recall. I sometimes would get the job option error message, 
>>> but that seems to have gone away since I created a job option called 
>>> Standard1. I see a "file not found" error from Acrobat Pro that 
>>> presumably results from my opting to show the pdf after generation.
>>> Don't know about the font embedding or the job options setting for 
>>> that, but will check when I go back to work Tuesday.
>>> It's a company computer, so don't know what patches have been 
>>> installed, how I would know if they had been installed, or if I can 
>>> install the HotFix for Postscript printers. (Do I need this when I'm 
>>> just trying to save a file as pdf?) Thanks for your feedback and 
>>> sorry I'm fuzzy on the details.
>>> cal
>>>
>>
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