framers Digest, Vol 64, Issue 24

[Venkan]

Dear Sir,

Is there any conversion tool for converting FM to MIF and MIF to FM?

Venkan
Newgen Knowledge Works  (P) Limited
 
India - Tamil Nadu - Chennai
(o) +914424495057 | (m) +919791040282
 
Email: venkatesh.s at newgenimaging.com; Skype: venkan20
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   1. Re: OT: Translation cost comparison (beth.tripp at verizon.net)
   2. RE: OT: Translation cost comparison (Alison Craig)
   3. RE: Translation cost comparison (Bill Nilson)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:52:24 -0600 (CST)
From: beth.tripp at verizon.net
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Subject: Re: OT: Translation cost comparison
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It is not the word count but the amount of time to "round trip" the
document, engineering costs from Frame to xml and back. The second part of
that is the DTP. Frame does a cleaner round-trip than word so less DTP time
for cleaning up the formatting.

I hope that helps. We translate into 29 languages where I work and we cut
the cost by about 30 to 50% using Frame and that was before we switched to
DITA.

Just my .02,

Beth





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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:16:18 -0800
From: Alison Craig <Alison.Craig at ultrasonix.com>
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	"framers at lists.frameusers.com" <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: RE: OT: Translation cost comparison
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Actually, in my case, I was only talking about word cost. This was borne out
by the detailed quotes I received. Other fees were accounted for under
different line items (any reputable LSP should do it this way so you can see
what is involved in a job and what the associated costs are).

I also did a large RFQ about 15 months ago with 11 different ISO qualified,
medical device LSPs and even though they were all given *exactly* the same
set of directions, the same TM and the same FM-based file set, the word
counts were all over the place. Counts for New Words alone ranged from a low
of 27,863 to a high of 36,305. That kind of discrepancy adds up quickly. 

FYI: The MS Word equivalent number was 28,239.

Alison


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Subject: Re: OT: Translation cost comparison

It is not the word count but the amount of time to "round trip" the
document, engineering costs from Frame to xml and back. The second part of
that is the DTP. Frame does a cleaner round-trip than word so less DTP time
for cleaning up the formatting.

I hope that helps. We translate into 29 languages where I work and we cut
the cost by about 30 to 50% using Frame and that was before we switched to
DITA.

Just my .02,

Beth





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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:26:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Bill Nilson <billnilson at yahoo.com>
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Subject: RE: Translation cost comparison
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Some translation houses charge extra for delivery in an additional output
format besides the translated Frame files. Some years ago I had an estimate
that included an extra 1K for a PDF manual but decided to create the PDF
myself. In my case, it was for Japanese. If you're resourceful and it's
convenient, you can install the appropriate version of Frame for your target
language, get a native speaker to help you with the Frame menus, and create
the PDF yourself to save the extra charges.

-Bill

Ampient, Inc.
Knowledge Is Power


On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Roy Lewis <roy_g_lewis at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I apologize for going off topic but can anyone point to figures that
> compares translation costs for Framemaker documents compared to MSWord
> documents. Someone told me Frame was generally cheaper, but they could not
> supply a source for the data.
> Thanks,
> Roy


      


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